Guys, I think we've beaten every ounce of life out of this thread from both engineering and a practical standpoint we possibly can. Pictures of burning F and L cars (although nice to see) do not lend any credence to what is taking place with our gauges. DBK’s offer is the best solution presently offered based on his proximity and ability to communicate with the folks at SVT. Shelby and I are on the same page, root cause and effect is the name of the game. What caused the problem originally, and what is the final result based on the root cause? We don’t know if the gauges are the problem or if there is a problem with the vehicle’s electrical system or one or more of its components. Whenever we as engineers have a pandemic of failures, we one thing; need data, data, data. There is no absolutely no substitute for having the defective part in hand to do our analysis. That being said I think it’s important that anyone with a bad gauge who truly wants to get this issue resolved needs to send their gauge to DBK along with a brief history of the circumstances surrounding the failure. He has offered to walk it across the street to SVT, provide SVT with all the information on each individual situation, and return the defective gauge to its owner, what more could we ask for. In a classified project some months ago we had a continuous failure of one particular gyro every time our project went to a certain altitude, in every instance NASA would not allow our team to take the suspected part back to our lab to do in house testing. Even though we spent millions developing and building the vessel from the scratch, it was their opinion that they were the most qualified entity to do the analysis of failure testing. At a cost of just under a million dollars a flight it was decided after the 4th failure we would be allowed to take all 4 of the parts back to our lab to take a closer look. As it turned out it was the suspected part sourced from a reputable supplier, all from the same lot that was causing all the grief. The next flight was successful. My point here is that there is not a better place for our defective gauges to go than to the company who designed and sourced the manufacturing of them. If it gets to a point where SVT or Autometer decides to discontinue their analysis then we as a community can explore our options from there. Rather than trying to re-invent what SVT has already done let’s all quit bitching about the gauge failures and do something about it.