jay Leno GT500 w/ Jamal
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Triheart7
GT Owner
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
'Loved Jay's comment regarding his being 'ticked off' about buying his FGT only to see a Mustang out-horsepower it a couple years later!
Jay Leno's new Fords
I am so jealous Jamel got to go to the car gods garage!
2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 & Boss 302
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLZdKnDAMnE&feature=player_embedded
I am so jealous Jamel got to go to the car gods garage!
2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 & Boss 302
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLZdKnDAMnE&feature=player_embedded
gtinmyblood
GT Owner
Cobrar
GT Owner
Apparently Jay is not familiar with 'lessons learned'.
One can safely assume that the new 5.8L was developed in conjunction with experience gained from the GT - now about 10 years worth - and new technology. That and tire technology will get you 200 mph.
BlackICE
GT Owner
The top speed of a stock FGT is limited 205 in the tune, 212 at Nardo. What does a stock 2013 GT500 do?
FBA
GT Owner
I'd imagine that 5.8 has plenty left in it to uncork -- would be a breeze with bolt on's to get another several hundred ponies too!
tmcphail
GT Owner/Vendor
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
PL510*Jeff
Well-known member
Same process as on our GT motors..cylinder liner sleeves with flame spread plasma coating. Added hp not an issue.
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
??? At about 5:50 the vid, didn't Jamal say, "...we don't have the steel liners in this aluminum block...we've got the plasma spray coating"? I interpreted that as meaning the sleeves are gone on the 5.8...which in turn conjured up the image of a '21st century Vega' to me. :willy
Dang. I guess I'm not only old...I'm 'slow' too...:facepalm:
AJB
GT
You are correct Pockets..the sleeves are gone, gone, gone. The plasma spray is directly onto the aluminum bore. A new process, but I have it on my 2011 MustangShelbyGT500 as the first application. In 2011 the 5.4 L in the ShelbyGT500 Mustang was first to get the all-alum. block with the spray plasma. I reviewed with several of the FordManufacturing and Powertrain folks and I trust them...it is very well proven out...
ajb (andy)
ajb (andy)
GTdrummer
GT Owner
KJD
GT Owner
Likely because he does a great job.
I loved his admission that he's been a car guy from the get go, playing with toy cars longer than he probably should have!
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
I hope so, but, I just can't get the 'Vega' thing out of my head with regard to the spray process. 'Can't wrap what I use for a brain around how plasma spray (or any spray for that matter) can stand up to the expansion/contraction/pressure cycles in the cyls and keep clearances 'constant' throughout. I'd still want the steel sleeves myself (like I said, I'm old school")! :willy
Buuuuuuuut, the spray must work. If it didn't, we darn sure ought to know by now!
Thanks, Andy.
twobjshelbys
GT Owner
Back in 1976 I worked at DEC and got a company car. We got to choose, sort of. A co-worker had a Vega and it died very soon after he got it. Another co-worker ordered the new Vega (perhaps, not knowing of the impending doom of the first one). He got a different job and I got assigned his car. It was a station wagon and had the "new and improved" engine. I beat the snot out of it (it was a company car!!!) and never had any issues. When I left I bought it for cheap, and we drove it for 4 more years, no issues.
I think the industry has learned about aluminum blocks by now. I trust Ford on this one.
The video is cool - note the Ford GT, Cobra and original GT350 lurking in the background. And how he was miffed that Ford came out with a Mustang that was faster than the GT.
My only take is when the cylinders eventually get out of round and a bore is needed, it is not available. The whole engine block must be replaced.
Whereas, steel liner sleeves, as in our GTs, can be replaced and bring the block back to a new condition. I find this more satisfying, especially because our engines will no longer be available when the replacement time comes. Just MHO.
With a couple of mods, I think the GT could easily come out on top.
Whereas, steel liner sleeves, as in our GTs, can be replaced and bring the block back to a new condition. I find this more satisfying, especially because our engines will no longer be available when the replacement time comes. Just MHO.
With a couple of mods, I think the GT could easily come out on top.
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