The GT Guy LLC to install the first two sets of Guerin Engineering door hinges


DRIVEBY

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Nope, I had the same issue on my X1. The originals had wear parts in them that didn't hold up for long, and as stated before each was individually hand worked because of the casting process. The GT Guys just finished redoing mine and they now work better than ever before.

Exactly what "wear parts" are we talking about?
 

Shelby#18

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Exactly what "wear parts" are we talking about?

I'll let Rich and Dennis (the GT Guys) answer that since they are the ones that took them apart. Remember these are the original "G" hinges not the new ones that Guerin Engineering has come up with.
 

CJ428

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Two things next time. Get Dennis to wear something a little sexier for the guys.:biggrin & I would like to see Rich get in and out of the car when opening & closing the door.Your around the same height as me I think.
 

BillyRay

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Only two things

Boys ,there is only two things that make my mouth water...

Those new gulf wing doors and.............
 

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DRIVEBY

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I'll let Rich and Dennis (the GT Guys) answer that since they are the ones that took them apart. Remember these are the original "G" hinges not the new ones that Guerin Engineering has come up with.

Okay then GT Guys, what "wear parts" are we talking about?
 

fjpikul

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Maybe it's "weak" parts?
 

thegtguy

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Wear parts

Okay then GT Guys, what "wear parts" are we talking about?

When the original assemblies were built there were no provisions for any kind of bushings to provide a good wear point for the steel pin in an AL casting. We had to remove all of the pins and machine the casting to install bronze bushings. We also removed the metal ball and fabricated a nylon ball with bearings inside of it for smoother and quieter operation. Also we incorporated a "catch" assembly to properly align the door to the car just before it latches.
 

thegtguy

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Update

Two things next time. Get Dennis to wear something a little sexier for the guys.:biggrin & I would like to see Rich get in and out of the car when opening & closing the door.Your around the same height as me I think.

Just to put a close to both of these projects that were completed over the weekend. Both cars are now done and will be shipped out in the next week or two. One of which we will deliver to KDO this weekend on our trip to MD. This has been a nice project for us and with a few little tweaks of the system we feel that these will be provide many years of enjoyment.

New hinge installed
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Passenger side hinge and wiring complete. No need to modify the fuel filler neck on this version.
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Drivers side wiring in process.
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Both hinges installed and now the HOURS of aligning and adjustments begin.
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Now a few pics of the finished product. KDO will be quite happy with these.
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These videos are just for you Carl. Just for reference these two cars are 28" apart at the center of each door.



 

CJ428

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Thank You my friend,:thumbsup looks like it mite be just possible I could make it in & out with out injuring myself. The side clearance will be great for parking.
 

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Nice work guys!
 

Shelby#18

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Excellent job Rich and Dennis! And thanks for answering the questions on the original "G" hinges.
 

Kayvan

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The best name for these doors should be Saleen S7 Doors.....the swing, and roof cutouts style predates the GTX1; and other designs.

Great Job!
 

pe2unia

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I can't wait until our event this weekend to check them out. Awesome job to everyone involved throughout the process:thumbsup
 

KDO GT

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Thanks to all involved in making this happen for me!!!!!

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banana
Now Baby come home to DADDY!!!!!!!!!!:banana
 
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When the original assemblies were built there were no provisions for any kind of bushings to provide a good wear point for the steel pin in an AL casting. We had to remove all of the pins and machine the casting to install bronze bushings. We also removed the metal ball and fabricated a nylon ball with bearings inside of it for smoother and quieter operation. Also we incorporated a "catch" assembly to properly align the door to the car just before it latches.

Question

Were these pre/early production hinges? I ask because all of the hinges systems that I installed used OEM Teflon impregnated bronze bushings as all of the pins?

Yes all had the hardened roller and Bernard and I discussed using a nylon ball however at that time he felt that because of the ball and track design the harden ball was a better choice. There is no doubt that a nylon ball would be quieter and smoother; very cool.

Thank you

Shadowman
 

HeritageBruce

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Wouldn't the design be even better if the doors can be opened more vertical and allow more clearance when one tries to get out of the car? Or is this as far as the door can possibly open?
 

thegtguy

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Apr 20, 2006
546
MI
Hinges

Question

Were these pre/early production hinges? I ask because all of the hinges systems that I installed used OEM Teflon impregnated bronze bushings as all of the pins?

Yes all had the hardened roller and Bernard and I discussed using a nylon ball however at that time he felt that because of the ball and track design the harden ball was a better choice. There is no doubt that a nylon ball would be quieter and smoother; very cool.

Thank you

Shadowman


Don't know exactly what level these particular hinges were as all of the ones we have seen have been "snowflakes" as we call them. These just had the pins with no bushings of any type causing the pin to wear in the AL. Since all of the "slop" was taken out of the pins we decided to change the ball from a hardened ball to a nylon ball with needle bearings inside of it to allow for smoother operation. The hardened ball kept locking up and just sliding in the
track rather than rolling like it should have.



Wouldn't the design be even better if the doors can be opened more vertical and allow more clearance when one tries to get out of the car? Or is this as far as the door can possibly open?

I'm sure it would be better if they could open more but this is Bernard's design. When we install these hinges or rework the old ones both are adjustable and we adjust them as to where they open as far as the hinges will allow.