Having had a car here with the butterfly doors, I also feel they are nothing like a lambo door, and I REALLLLY liked them. They are similar to the SLR Doors which I also really like, much more so than the lambo doors.
The GT Guy LLC to install the first two sets of Guerin Engineering door hinges
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Fubar
Totally ****** Up
I agree, they do not look just like the Lambo doors. There are many customization to the GT that I like but would not personally do. It doesn't mean that I don't enjoy seeing others vision of how the GT can be messaged and transformed.
Again, no intent to criticize. I was just stating my point of view. :cheers:
Again, no intent to criticize. I was just stating my point of view. :cheers:
EVERYONE is intitled to their opinion. I was just stating that I dont feel they look like or work like lambo doors... :cheers
This is truly some incredible engineering - both the former design as well as what I expect the new one is.
From my experience (insofar that the new operation of the door is similar to the previous design) is that there are some trade-offs. I would not agree that ingress/egress is easier with these doors and, in fact, I would say it was harder. With the OEM doors, once they are in a 90-degrees-to-the-body position, ingress/egress is great - perhaps mostly attributable to the cut-away roof section following the door. In contrast, the scissor doors (as can be seen from Shadowman's picture posted above) cause tall drivers to be nose-to-door-panel before lowering yourself into the seat. Like the stock GT, I suppose that you quickly develop a technique that works best for you. I likely did not spend enough time with the scissor doors but I found them a little inhibiting to the ingress/egress process – much to my surprise.
The scissor doors are obviously an advantage in parking situations as the door no longer needs the space for a 90-degree opening. This is the key advantage of the doors and, IMO, perhaps the only (albeit significant) advantage.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. While some people may factor the "look" of an opened scissor door into the buying equation, I can say that it doesn’t work for me. Perhaps it is the market where Hondas, Chryslers, Supras, etc. added the doors and in a way, "cheapened" the concept. There is no doubt that the level of engineering in the design and implementation of the GT hinge is well beyond what any others have achieved - but the function is obviously scissor doors.
Finally, despite the ultra-engineering of the hinge and mechanism, the door of the GT is very long and very heavy. It is a long and heavy lever on this fine design - and you are reminded of that each time the doors are in their fully-opened position. I always had the impression that a menacing 12-year old could cause some very significant damage to the doors if he was inclined to do so.
In summary, I don't want to take anything away from this wonderful new product. Rather, I think that buyers should take a moment or two to see and experience the product for themselves. There’s just no substitute for seeing, feeling, and operating. If it meets or exceeds your requirements and expectations, then go for it!
Previous cast hinges example
In addition to installing the new billet hinges from Guerin Engineering we have reworked (rebuilt and improved) a few sets of the original cast hinges that we originally offered by Genaddi. Here is a short video of one of the cars of how the hinges work after we reworked them. No I am not a very good model.
http://s750.photobucket.com/albums/xx142/thegtguy/Hinges/?action=view¤t=DSCN3743.flv
Here is the before video. This is how the car was brought to us. The door was damaged quite a bit when it arrived so we reworked the hinges and now the car has to have some paint work to be put back to new.
http://s750.photobucket.com/albums/xx142/thegtguy/Hinges/?action=view¤t=DSCN3173.flv
In addition to installing the new billet hinges from Guerin Engineering we have reworked (rebuilt and improved) a few sets of the original cast hinges that we originally offered by Genaddi. Here is a short video of one of the cars of how the hinges work after we reworked them. No I am not a very good model.
http://s750.photobucket.com/albums/xx142/thegtguy/Hinges/?action=view¤t=DSCN3743.flv
Here is the before video. This is how the car was brought to us. The door was damaged quite a bit when it arrived so we reworked the hinges and now the car has to have some paint work to be put back to new.
http://s750.photobucket.com/albums/xx142/thegtguy/Hinges/?action=view¤t=DSCN3173.flv
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The before video is awesome! Would have been a little better if you would have had a billy goat head butting the door closed!:biggrin
Beach-GT
GT Owner
It still looks like the sweep of the bottom door edge is significant interferring with another car parked close. What is the clearance?
- Feb 22, 2006
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BlackICE
GT Owner
I bet the owner wasn't laughing when he got the car back after the hinges were 1st installed. :ack
I noticed the before video had red interior but the after did not. Either way, I always said that my 3rd GT would be stripeless silver with red interior. if you have more pics please post.
- Feb 22, 2006
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Shelby#18
GTX1 Owner/Moderator
Nope, I had the same issue on my X1. The originals had wear parts in them that didn't hold up for long, and as stated before each was individually hand worked because of the casting process. The GT Guys just finished redoing mine and they now work better than ever before.
I love my X1 with the B-Doors, and when I have the funds available I'll do them on the Tungsten. :thumbsup
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PL510*Jeff
Well-known member
Rich - correcto mondo, you're not a very good model.
Suggest you have one (or more) of the Matech Girls be included in your next photo shoot. :eek
Suggest you have one (or more) of the Matech Girls be included in your next photo shoot. :eek
Update
Thanks Rick and we hope that our reworked version will provide you with many more years of properly functioning B doors.
Yes I'm not that photogenic so we put Denis in the new video. Maybe we can get Comilo to set us up with some better eye candy.
I don't know if Bernard will sell just LH hinge assemblies but I will find out.
Now for a quick update the first car is about 95% done and we are almost halfway through the second one. Not a lot of time to write as I try to keep things as simple as possible so here are a few pics and one video to show our progress.
I will say that this is a very nice piece when it is completed.
Thanks Rick and we hope that our reworked version will provide you with many more years of properly functioning B doors.
Yes I'm not that photogenic so we put Denis in the new video. Maybe we can get Comilo to set us up with some better eye candy.
I don't know if Bernard will sell just LH hinge assemblies but I will find out.
Now for a quick update the first car is about 95% done and we are almost halfway through the second one. Not a lot of time to write as I try to keep things as simple as possible so here are a few pics and one video to show our progress.
I will say that this is a very nice piece when it is completed.
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Just to make parking and entry easier and possibly half the price and half the work.