Customer Satisfaction Program 07B49


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I am so depressed, we will have nothing to bitch about...
I think we should shut down this forum.
Should we start a poll...


Or we could have rally XXXV at Frankie's house???
Sorry Bony - I do not mean to do this to you...

BUT... I Can't Help Myself...:wink

We can still bitch about the White/Orange car:biggrin
 

B O N Y

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Sorry Bony - I do not mean to do this to you...

BUT... I Can't Help Myself...:wink

We can still bitch about the White/Orange car:biggrin
I HOPE YOU CAN BE MORE CREATIVE THAN THAT....:willy:eek:willy
:wink
 

Empty Pockets

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Ah, nuts! And I just put on my flack jacket 'n' everything...:frown


Saaaaaaay! Whaddabout them Patriots!
 

AtomicGT

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I received the came letter yesterday. guess I will call Buerge Ford in West Los Angeles, and see what is up?
 

FlorIdaho Chris

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Thank you FoMoCo! :cheers
 

pe2unia

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refund or kits?

How many of us that have installed the accufab bolts will be going for the refund from Ford or just picking up the kit? Not so sure what to do.:confused
 

Empty Pockets

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Why don'tcha just wait until Bill & Jay & the other "tech" types here on the 'Forum have had a chance to look at these new bolts, compair 'em to the Accufabs, and render their opinions on which way to go? :shrug

(My own guess is there won't be enough difference to warrant replacing the 'fabs, if they're already installed.)
 

ChipBeck

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A bolt from the Blue.........Oval

Why don'tcha just wait until Bill & Jay & the other "tech" types here on the 'Forum have had a chance to look at these new bolts, compair 'em to the Accufabs, and render their opinions on which way to go? :shrug

(My own guess is there won't be enough difference to warrant replacing the 'fabs, if they're already installed.)
My thoughts exactly Larry.

Chip
 

B O N Y

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Gents,
I think if you read CAREFULLY the posts of INDY GT you will conclude that the Ford bolts now being used are equal to ACCUFAB's. Just from another supplier who sources Ford's rod bolts... If you have Accufab's bolts in your covered.
Daniel
 

red gt 1442

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Gents,
I think if you read CAREFULLY the posts of INDY GT you will conclude that the Ford bolts now being used are equal to ACCUFAB's. Just from another supplier who sources Ford's rod bolts... If you have Accufab's bolts in your covered.
Daniel
I really dont want to beat a DEAD horse..........but....for all you qualified mechanics......are these new bolts (harder compound and all) really the answer to the FGT's problem? I was told that the reason they shear is because of the axel's sloppiness....(for lack of a better word). If this is the case, then may we presume that eventually no matter how hard the bolts are, the same results will happen. If I am right, is Ford addressing the real problem? or is this another band aid on a deep wound that eventually will bleed to death? I may sound dumb, so someone that understands it better than I, can you please explain this to me? Again, if this is going to bring up another year of axel bashing, and the fix...I will understand it, and I will be quiet....someone please set me straight.....TY


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fjpikul

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Gino, you are absolutely correct and you need to dump your car before they hit bottom. Please send it to me (now that it doesn't overheat) and I'll send you a check. Your buddy, Frank
 

93extxdps

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Bolts

Red GT 1442,

This was posted in another thread. May explain the problem.

DP



The axle bolt issue really has little to do with the washer although the new "CA" kit Ford just released and Jamal discussed in our California technical session is a design different than used before. The issue is also NOT a "weak/limp" bolt, as many seem to think (and rethink and rethink...). All the bolts used in the production run as well as the earlier replacement kits used bolts with completely sufficient "strength" it is just they were electroplated to prevent corrosion and the plating (presumably done in Europe where the bolts were sourced) led to surface "hydrogen embrittlement" which led to premature failures. (Go look up this phenomenon on the internet).
 

B O N Y

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I really dont want to beat a DEAD horse..........but....for all you qualified mechanics......are these new bolts (harder compound and all) really the answer to the FGT's problem? I was told that the reason they shear is because of the axel's sloppiness....(for lack of a better word). If this is the case, then may we presume that eventually no matter how hard the bolts are, the same results will happen. If I am right, is Ford addressing the real problem? or is this another band aid on a deep wound that eventually will bleed to death? I may sound dumb, so someone that understands it better than I, can you please explain this to me? Again, if this is going to bring up another year of axel bashing, and the fix...I will understand it, and I will be quiet....someone please set me straight.....TY


Gino

Gino.
There will be a special NY Tech Sessions at Joey's just for you guys from BBQ and da swamps of Jersey. Special Grandpa's best homemade in the basement
Vino Rosso, real Pisano food catered from Mulberry Street's best, you know, from the neighborhood, it will be served as well,.... you know the real good sauce.
Then we will have biscotti and cookies.. it will be real swell.
Edsel and Jamal will rehash everything. Stand by for the date...:lol:thumbsup:lol
For the rest of us this is as old as the night we busted Mary Sue's cherry.... Ford has resolved the issue and
the matter is closed.
Happy Holidays:thumbsup
Daniel
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paul b

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Does anyone know if the Ford kit comes with the 12 torque to yield bolts for the outer flange connection?
 

Fast Freddy

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so i got my letter in the mail yesterday concerning the recall on the halfshaft bolts and washers. so is my best course of action to take my GT to the dealer and have this done now or wait until it breaks. whose to say that it will never break? i am from the old skool were if its not broke i don't want to fix it? call me paranoid but after making several trips to speeds up to 200 mph and never having a problem with my stock ones whose to say that if i change to the new ones that i might start having problems? is the factory recall the best fix or is there something offered thru the aftermarket that is considered to be better. i don't want a band-aid solution to a problem that has not made itslef known on my car yet. so has ford got this fix done right or not? i don't want to mess with it if there fix is not 100% correct to solve the problem.
 

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Freddy...
Your call, Ford has confirmed that your bolts don't meet their specs.
We have had thousands of posts on this subject. We will not be debating it further.
Who knows what will happen if you run with the original bolts,.. not me.
I did what was right for me. I'm sure you will do what is correct for you.
Cheers,
Bony
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Empty Pockets

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See posts 66-67-68 on this thread, Freddy.

Bottom line is: to be safe, the origionals pbly OUGHT to go "bye-bye". "Much gooder" to PLAN for an hour or two of downtime done on YOUR schedule than to experience the possible alternative...

Just MHO.
 

Fast Freddy

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Freddy...
Your call, Ford has confirmed that your bolts don't meet their specs.
We have had thousands of posts on this subject. We will not be debating it further.
Who knows what will happen if you run with the original bolts,.. not me.
I did what was right for me. I'm sure you will do what is correct for you.
Cheers,
Bony
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to make a long story short i guess what i am really asking is do you guys feel that fords fix for this problem is 100% correct? if so then i will take my car into ford and fix it before it breaks then......
 

B O N Y

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Yes Freddy!
Ford feels that the problem is solved and the fix is withing super car standards.
 

Fast Freddy

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Yes Freddy!
Ford feels that the problem is solved and the fix is withing super car standards.
i will be getting this done then this spring when i get my oil changed by the dealer again :thumbsup