Ford GT Mk. II revealed at Goodwood Festival of Speed


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Although they are probably way too low to drive on the street, why wouldn't a crafty owner be able to register one to drive on public roads? Are they lacking specific regulatory safety equipment or were they not certified? Sorry for my ignorance, just curious.
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No VIN.
 
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Congrats to the 2019 Goodwood Festival of Speed WINNER

Video posted above in #75.
 
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GTMD said:
Although they are probably way too low to drive on the street, why wouldn't a crafty owner be able to register one to drive on public roads? Are they lacking specific regulatory safety equipment or were they not certified? Sorry for my ignorance, just curious.
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As was mentioned, it doesn't have a VIN. Ford produces (and Multimatic manufactures) a line of purpose built Mustangs for the track. These cars have a serial number but not a VIN. In fact, if you go into a Ford dealer and try to buy a Mustang GT4 (or in the past a Cobrajet, etc) your salesman would most likely give you a doe-in-the-headlights look and think you were crazy. A savvy salesman would direct you to the parts department.

Like those cars, the MkII is lacking more than just a VIN. It's got none of the airbags and other compliant safety equipment. Remember alot was ditched for weight. It's not been submitted for crash testing. And that pesky EPA "Miles per gallon" rating? Not done. So lots of things prevent it from getting a title and tags.
 
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twobjshelbys said:
As was mentioned, it doesn't have a VIN. Ford produces (and Multimatic manufactures) a line of purpose built Mustangs for the track. These cars have a serial number but not a VIN. In fact, if you go into a Ford dealer and try to buy a Mustang GT4 (or in the past a Cobrajet, etc) your salesman would most likely give you a doe-in-the-headlights look and think you were crazy. A savvy salesman would direct you to the parts department.

Like those cars, the MkII is lacking more than just a VIN. It's got none of the airbags and other compliant safety equipment. Remember alot was ditched for weight. It's not been submitted for crash testing. And that pesky EPA "Miles per gallon" rating? Not done. So lots of things prevent it from getting a title and tags.
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In Michigan you could probably get an assembler's title, like a Cobra kit car. You only need correct lights, horn, brakes, wipers ect. I have not checked about an assembler's title in years but I have one for an ERA Cobra kit. Michigan State police would inspect and certify vehicle for road use. Multimatic must have a chassis # on vehicle. I used ERA's chassis # to certify my car. This was before air bags ect. Michigan does not do emission testing either. I will have to do more homework on this one.
 
I think people have tried that in the past and it didn't work. A Cobra is a home assembled car as a full kit, or as a component vehicle with power train added after sale by the owner. Rules now prevent Cobras from being sold by a dealer with power train installed, which the MKII would be the equivalent of and as far as I know those rules are universal. The rules about having a power train are related to a component vs. a manufacturer and this is the reason that Cobras don't have power trains. (I owned a Cobra and follow them to this day, as it is the only car that I could probably drive now). I doubt you'd be able to slip this one through a crack.
 
We were looking at a Lotus Exige that actually had a vin but found out it does not show up as legal for road insurance in U.S. Basically, if you ever get in a wreck, the insurance company is not liable even if you were able to finagle insurance and you could be personally on the hook for a lot - especially if someone got hurt. My bet is this would fall under that same category.
 
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MkII ftw!
 
Sinovac said:
No VIN.
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twobjshelbys said:
As was mentioned, it doesn't have a VIN. Ford produces (and Multimatic manufactures) a line of purpose built Mustangs for the track. These cars have a serial number but not a VIN. In fact, if you go into a Ford dealer and try to buy a Mustang GT4 (or in the past a Cobrajet, etc) your salesman would most likely give you a doe-in-the-headlights look and think you were crazy. A savvy salesman would direct you to the parts department.

Like those cars, the MkII is lacking more than just a VIN. It's got none of the airbags and other compliant safety equipment. Remember alot was ditched for weight. It's not been submitted for crash testing. And that pesky EPA "Miles per gallon" rating? Not done. So lots of things prevent it from getting a title and tags.
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Thanks guys. Makes perfect sense.
 
GTMD said:
Thanks guys. Makes perfect sense.
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Solved by a D tag.
 
Here are some up close shot of this beast

 
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twobjshelbys said:
I think people have tried that in the past and it didn't work. A Cobra is a home assembled car as a full kit, or as a component vehicle with power train added after sale by the owner. Rules now prevent Cobras from being sold by a dealer with power train installed, which the MKII would be the equivalent of and as far as I know those rules are universal. The rules about having a power train are related to a component vs. a manufacturer and this is the reason that Cobras don't have power trains. (I owned a Cobra and follow them to this day, as it is the only car that I could probably drive now). I doubt you'd be able to slip this one through a crack.
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Also probably too low to qualify in most states.
 
Apollo said:
We were looking at a Lotus Exige that actually had a vin but found out it does not show up as legal for road insurance in U.S. Basically, if you ever get in a wreck, the insurance company is not liable even if you were able to finagle insurance and you could be personally on the hook for a lot - especially if someone got hurt. My bet is this would fall under that same category.
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It must be the Lotus Exige Cup Car.

I would not recommend anyone to drive REAL RACE CARS with cages for the Road. Even with dealer tags it is unsafe because of the ROLL Cage. I have seen some street legal cars with built cages in cars and drive them on the street. SCARY. This will cause more than a headache.

I suppose if you want to wear a HELMET and your Harness it would be safer but if you do get into an accident you will have a lot of explaining to do everyone.
 
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What a spectacular way to finalize this generation of GT. Congrats to FMC and MM. You have built a car that goes to the very limit and then moved the bar just for the heck of it. True racers.

Vince H
 
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Gary said:
Step up boys. Wonder how many if any of these touches will be offered in the remaining production cars.
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I'm getting chassis #2 🥳 ETA December 2019 - fingers crossed that it arrives in time for the Buttonwillow Time Trials!
 
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Gary said:
Solved by a D tag.
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I don't think a dealer tag gets around the fact that the car isn't legal for road use.
 
Upside to buying this car is that it can't be registered...hence no sales tax which is 6.25% here in Texas.
 
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Wonder if they are available through the retail channels (vs through Ford)

Cobrar said:
New wheels for the Mk2:

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ByeEnzo said:
Upside to buying this car is that it can't be registered...hence no sales tax which is 6.25% here in Texas.
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WINNING!
 
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