Transmission 1-2 Shift Grind


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Blue/white 06'
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Not arguing for or against whether it should happen but in my car, when cold, I just make the 1-2 shift slower than usual and hold the shifter against the left side of the "gate" more firmly than usual as I shift and there is no crunch or grinding.
 

nota4re

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Feb 15, 2006
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I'll admit that it is kind of a don't care situation for me as I am always being very careful and baby-ing the car anyway through the warm-up process. So it is always first to third when cold.... maybe the first few minutes of a drive. I think if I drove more frequently it might get old but doesn't seem to bother me now.
 

BlackICE

GT Owner
Nov 2, 2005
1,412
SF Bay Area in California
I'll admit that it is kind of a don't care situation for me as I am always being very careful and baby-ing the car anyway through the warm-up process. So it is always first to third when cold.... maybe the first few minutes of a drive. I think if I drove more frequently it might get old but doesn't seem to bother me now.
I do the same.

EP never had a problem with shifting to 2nd! :lol
 

shelbyelite

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May 10, 2007
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I agree..but you and I seem to be the only ones concerned. Everybody else here passes it off as "typical" or "expected". Funny though, I am a used car dealer and I drive many, many standards each year and none grind or crunch. I have an 01 Dodge pu with a 5-spd and 105K miles...no crunch. Had many Ford Rangers, full size Ford pus, Chevy S-10s and full size Silverados, Focus, Escorts, Cavaliers, Corvettes, 350Zs, Miatas....yada, yada yada...no crunch. I still think a $160K car shouldn't do it, hot, cold or otherwise. Period.
Come on Nardo.... Tell us how you really feel! All these little problems bother you so bad that you bought four of them? LOL
Every vehicle of any make has it's issues. Bring me any car ever made by man and I can find things that are not "perfect". At the end of the day, just enjoy it for what it is.
 

Nardo GT

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Jul 15, 2006
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Texas
Come on Nardo.... Tell us how you really feel! All these little problems bother you so bad that you bought four of them? LOL
Every vehicle of any make has it's issues. Bring me any car ever made by man and I can find things that are not "perfect". At the end of the day, just enjoy it for what it is.
Shelby I only posted that just so you would respond!
 

shelbyelite

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Shelby I only posted that just so you would respond!
:)
 

RPM217

2005 white/blue stripe
Jun 18, 2010
1,466
Rye Brook, New York
Go to NSX Prime (the same as this, only for NSX's :) ) and do a search for 2nd gear grinding, you will see the same exact problem and cure. When I got my NSX 8 years ago, I brought it into the dealer with the same complaint, they checked the car out thoroughly and told me the car was fine. I found that totally unacceptable until I joined Prime and saw that my complaint was common and just learned to warm up the car avoiding 2nd gear until it was properly warmed up. Kind of funny that I've since learned the GT was using the NSX transmission as a target to match/beat. Two great cars, two smooth transmissions (when warm), and two cars that can grind second when cold!!!
 

GTdrummer

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Mar 13, 2010
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Just be grateful the Ford does not have the stupid skip shift like the Vipers and Vettes. My Vipers especially the newer ones shift into 2nd smoothly , however. (its just the rest of the gears that aren't as smooth as the GT) BTW, how did Ford avoid the nannie skip shift??
 

nota4re

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Kind of funny that I've since learned the GT was using the NSX transmission as a target to match/beat.
True that the NSX was tested extensively and the benchmark for the GT - but it was mostly in the design of the shift cables to achieve the pinnacle of smothness (NSX) which is also a shift by cable design.

BTW, how did Ford avoid the nannie skip shift??
The nannie skip shift is far from a requirement - but it could be a ploy to improve measured fuel economy on the EPA test cycle and reduce or eliminate the gas guzzler tax. My GT's window sticker shows a $2100 guzzler tax. Personally, I'm soooo glad Ford didn't try to mess with the shifting!!!
 
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ford.f1

GT Owner
Feb 20, 2009
24
Hey Guys, when you park, don’t push to hard!, wait 3 seconds from the 1 to reverse ¡! ! This is an electronic gearbox protection that you not can put the reverse accidentally!:thumbsup
 

paul b

GT Owner
Nov 2, 2006
810
It seems everyone is convinced Fords transmission oil is the only way to go. It seems other car forums have members trying every lubricant possible on almost every transmission ever built to overcome similar problems.
 

BlackICE

GT Owner
Nov 2, 2005
1,412
SF Bay Area in California
How many stock transmission can hold up to almost double the stock torque input! I would guess like most things there are design tradeoffs and the cold 2nd gear grind was lower on the list. I can live with that in exchange for the transaxles holding up to Whipple and TT upgrades. I think the Nissan GTR doesn't have a grind problem, but I doubt that you can double the HP and have it stay operational for very long.
 

Fast Freddy

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Aug 5, 2005
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my GT has troubles getting into 2nd when cold too. this would present a real problem for anybody who wants to drag race their GT at the strip or a 1 mile top speed shootout because when you pull to the line your gearbox is almost always bone cold. how are the racers on this site getting around this problem???
 

BlackICE

GT Owner
Nov 2, 2005
1,412
SF Bay Area in California
my GT has troubles getting into 2nd when cold too. this would present a real problem for anybody who wants to drag race their GT at the strip or a 1 mile top speed shootout because when you pull to the line your gearbox is almost always bone cold. how are the racers on this site getting around this problem???
Just have the car warmed up before the event, sitting around for 15 minute of less I believe 2nd gear will still be easier to find. Test this out before getting on the line. If I drive for about 1/2 to mile the problem goes away.