Library of Congress slaps the hand of Apple/iPhone/iPod/iPad


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Did someone here say Apple was not a closed software company? Believe it or not I see this as good news. Entrepreneurs will be able to develop with no restriction. A change in the tide I say...

The Library of Congress, which helps oversee copyright law, removed a legal cloud over altering of iPhones, iPads and iPods, to install and run software not purchased from Apple.

Apple has reviewed and maintained veto power over apps for the iPhone since it opened the device to outside developers in 2008. These apps can only be downloaded from Apple's App Store. Monday's ruling applies to other smartphone makers but only Apple now restricts what apps can run on its devices.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704700404575391570601360494.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
 

centerpunch

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I'm very curious- Are there specific types of applications that you think Apple is somehow suppressing? (Other than "adult" applications, which they do not allow.)

I'm sure you won't be surprised if I disagree with you about this ruling! Seems to me like this is no change at all.

There are already ways to "jailbreak" the Apple products so you can install applications that are not approved by Apple, and there are plenty of non-approved applications available.

I guess it may allow more mainstream companies to develop software in areas that Apple doesn't like, but I'm not sure what kind of mainstream company would want to jeopardize their relationship with Apple to do that.

What the Library of Congress can't do is force Apple to provide support for non-official software.

As before the ruling, you can do whatever you want with your iPhone/iPod/iPad, but if your non-approved software doesn't work or causes other problems with your device, Apple, quite reasonably, will have no responsibility to fix your product.

That will keep 99% of the mainstream users away from non-approved apps, Library of Congress or not!
 
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Dont want to get into a pissing match, but here a re a few. I could compile a full list and post it, but I don't think it would matter to the Ford GT owner. With that here you go..

Seamless loading of any ActiveX control designed to enhance MS Office applications without the hair pulling experience of crossover
Full blown Symantec Antivirus, not the botched version for Snow Leopard
CCLEANER.exe from Ccleaner.com - which I highly recommend to any PC owner - its free
Cryptosmith for Multi-Level-Security for both corporate use and DoD
True 64 Bit real-time video stream swapping for dynamic terrain based texture maps - not a hack that does not support 60Hz in 6 DOF simulators.

Like I said, I can list endless applications but most Ford GT owners would be bored to death.
 
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Behaving like communists - OMG Censorship!

This is a guest commentary by Bryan J. Ball, a stand up comedian and long-time Apple fanboy.

My relationship with Steve used to be such a happy one. He would create beautiful bits of electronic amazement and I would buy them, show them off and feel generally superior to my non-Apple friends and family. That’s still mostly true but I’m starting to have my doubts.

My life is pretty Apple-centric. I have an iMac, an iPad, all manner of iPods and I was literally first in line to get an iPhone 4. I’ve been pretty happy with everything I’ve had so far. My area has excellent AT&T coverage so I’m not even plagued by the death grip reception issue on my iPhone.

Yes… I’ve been called a fanboy on more than one occasion. I used to categorically deny this but after watching Steve Jobs’ behavior and listening to myself defend it over the last couple of weeks, I’m starting to wonder.


My first response to the iPhone 4’s problems was to ignore it. I tried to replicate the problem myself and I couldn’t do it. I assumed it was something that would pass in a couple of days. When it didn’t I made the mistake of visiting some of my favorite Mac message boards to see what others had to say. By then the infamous emails from Steve were being posted.

I still stuck up for Steve and Apple. I tried to explain one of the particularly terse ones and actually even said, “Maybe he’s just having a very bad day.” That’s a statement almost as pathetic as, “I probably deserved it.” Then came the promise of a software fix that doesn’t seem like it will fix a thing. My confidence was shaken. I’d been blaming all of this hoopla on Android fanboys run amok and telling everyone to calm down because Apple would surely fix it somehow. Then they promised an explanation that insulted our intelligence? What?

The final blow came this morning when I saw that Apple had deleted threads on their support forums that referred to the damning Consumer Reports review and its “do not buy” recommendation. I took particular offense to this because I own and operate a very large message board of my own. I have never once deleted a thread that was disparaging to me or my business. In fact, I let people on my forum say things about me that would get them quickly banned if it were about someone else. It’s tempting to just make problems go away, but I think that Apple is becoming painfully aware that trying to control the conversation just makes it more hostile.

The death grip issue is only an issue because Apple made it one. I used to think that Steve Jobs could do no wrong. Even when he did, I would deny it or justify it and defend my favorite company to the ends of the Earth. I’m not sure I’ll do that any more. They’ve definitely dropped the ball on this one. I’ll continue to use all of my Apple devices and enjoy them. However, I’m not so sure I’ll blindly give Cupertino the benefit of the doubt anymore.

Or maybe I’ll just go to my bedroom, curl up, put my pillow over my head and cry it out. I can always tell everyone that my iPhone has reception issues because it walked into a door.

Bryan J. Ball is a tech writer and stand up comic living in Rochester, NY. He is the Managing Editor of ‘BentRider Online and has written for Wired.com, Adventure Cyclist, and Momentum Magazine amongst others. You can find him at http://www.twitter.com/bryanjball and http://www.facebook.com/bryanjball

http://www.cultofmac.com/my-codependent-relationship-with-steve-jobs-is-over-opinion/50758
 

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Becoming disenchanted with Apple myself and for all the same reasons. However, Microsoft's monumental influence on almost ever aspect of our lives scares me more than anything Mr. Jobs could do. It's still the right choice IMHO.
 

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Seamless loading of any ActiveX control designed to enhance MS Office applications without the hair pulling experience of crossover
Full blown Symantec Antivirus, not the botched version for Snow Leopard
CCLEANER.exe from Ccleaner.com - which I highly recommend to any PC owner - its free
Cryptosmith for Multi-Level-Security for both corporate use and DoD
True 64 Bit real-time video stream swapping for dynamic terrain based texture maps - not a hack that does not support 60Hz in 6 DOF simulators.

Like I said, I can list endless applications but most Ford GT owners would be bored to death.

I can see it now, as millions of 18-34 year olds run into Apple stores saying "This is total b.s! Just when I had figured out how to multi-task Porn Hub and iTunes with Solitaire, I find out I can't run True 64 Bit real-time video stream swapping for dynamic terrain based texture maps? I mean, are you f*()&^G kidding me!??!?! F#*@ this thing" (smashes iPhone angrily on floor)

Don't you ever get tired of posting these threads? Am I going to have to change the section sub-heading to "Where Sam Hates the SHIT Outta some Apple products"? :lol:
 

centerpunch

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Why would anybody buy a iPhone when there are better phones cheaper, and easier to modify to do whatever you want?

Well......

Why would anybody buy a Ford GT when there are better cars cheaper, and easier to modify to do whatever you want?
(e.g., the Z06 cost half as much, with virtually identical performance stats.)

The answer is the same for both.

We all get to choose what we spend our money on, and I think at this level, most of us don't really care what anyone else thinks.

For example, I personally have zero interest in pickup trucks, expensive watches, Vipers, and Blackberry and Droid phones. But I don't bash those things, the companies that make them, or anyone who does like those things.

Each to his own.
 
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I can see it now, as millions of 18-34 year olds run into Apple stores saying "This is total b.s! Just when I had figured out how to multi-task Porn Hub and iTunes with Solitaire, I find out I can't run True 64 Bit real-time video stream swapping for dynamic terrain based texture maps? I mean, are you f*()&^G kidding me!??!?! F#*@ this thing" (smashes iPhone angrily on floor)

Don't you ever get tired of posting these threads? Am I going to have to change the section sub-heading to "Where Sam Hates the SHIT Outta some Apple products"? :lol:

I'm checking in to rehab this afternoon...:screwy: When I check out I will love all Apple products, BMWs and Veyron Rear Tires..:bow
 

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Why would anybody buy a iPhone when there are better phones cheaper, and easier to modify to do whatever you want?

Well......

Why would anybody buy a Ford GT when there are better cars cheaper, and easier to modify to do whatever you want?
(e.g., the Z06 cost half as much, with virtually identical performance stats.)

The answer is the same for both.

We all get to choose what we spend our money on, and I think at this level, most of us don't really care what anyone else thinks.

For example, I personally have zero interest in pickup trucks, expensive watches, Vipers, and Blackberry and Droid phones. But I don't bash those things, the companies that make them, or anyone who does like those things.

Each to his own.

Well said! :thumbsup


What does Sam hate more BMWs or Apple? :lol
 
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ChipBeck

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Seamless loading of any ActiveX control designed to enhance MS Office applications without the hair pulling experience of crossover. Full blown Symantec Antivirus, not the botched version for Snow Leopard. CCLEANER.exe from Ccleaner.com - which I highly recommend to any PC owner - its free. Cryptosmith for Multi-Level-Security for both corporate use and DoD. True 64 Bit real-time video stream swapping for dynamic terrain based texture maps - not a hack that does not support 60Hz in 6 DOF simulators.

Gentlemen,

I don't know what any of the above are or what they do. Up to the age of 30, I had never used a PC or a cell phone. I look back fondly upon those days.

Chip
 

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Now you've really lost me.

So should Apple have to get approval from the Library of Congress before one of their highest paid employees quits and/or is fired?
 
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Now you've really lost me.

So should Apple have to get approval from the Library of Congress before one of their highest paid employees quits and/or is fired?

My point is simple. The man at the helm acts like a spoiled child. Its never his fault its always someone else. He fought for nearly 2 years to get him from IBM and defended him viciously. When the problems started with the iPhone4, he pointed fingers and blamed someone else. Pure arrogance. The only reason its in this thread is because I could not find my iPhone4 thread..I dont think it matters.

On a better note, it appears that iPhone will be on the Verizon network in January and that makes my wife very happy. Google TechTrend and Verizon...

Other news;
It looks like they are making a mini iPad. Why????
Chinese company have come up with a device to convert the iTouch to iPhone for $50....
Apple filed for a patent for its new iBicycle... They lost me with that one... I'm now waiting for the iToiletPaper...

BTW I have made plenty of $ off the Apple stock even though I could care less for any of their products. When it comes to $ in my pocket, I am brand agnostic...
 

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Sam hates Apple because they work perfectly with BMW's. Fully connected experience. IMHO much better than sync ... sync in the F150 HATES the iphone/ipod ... must be a carry over from the Jobs/Gates rivalry back when both were trying to tell the world that they did not steal the GUI design/format from another company. Love the only change in MSDOS from DOS when Bill bought it was the letters "m" and "s". God I love history... LOL
 
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And the court problems continue.

I guess one can borrow innovation...

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...lion_ruling_in_cover_flow_patent_dispute.html
 

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Well either way, We are an apple family :) Not too techy too know great product from a greater product. Easy to use, wife loves it...... IPHONE Lover here :)
... and my dad is an electrical and mechanical engineer who designs and programs everything from a-z for pc's.... I just never took to them :(
 

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Well said! :thumbsup


What does Sam hate more BMWs or Apple? :lol

Actually it might be Census Takers :rofl