Kayvan
GT Owner
- Jul 13, 2006
- 4,782
First Production Availability
- Thread starter timcantwell
- Start date
SuperB
Board of Directors/Owner
I'm BACK. Dave missed me so much he convinced Ford to make a new GT just to lure me back to this forum. Great Job Dave. ;-)
I'm in for one for sure. I don't expect to see a $400,000 price tag, I'd expect maybe $250,000 tops or it will be unattainable by many that will want one.
I sure hope there is some way to get on a list with preferential treatment like Tesla. BTW, I got rid of that piece of crap Tesla roadster I had in Vegas. I did finally get a model S and it's pretty good though.
I'm in for one for sure. I don't expect to see a $400,000 price tag, I'd expect maybe $250,000 tops or it will be unattainable by many that will want one.
I sure hope there is some way to get on a list with preferential treatment like Tesla. BTW, I got rid of that piece of crap Tesla roadster I had in Vegas. I did finally get a model S and it's pretty good though.
STORMCAT
GT
Hey Brian,, great to see you are still alive !! I think you had the Tesla in Texas no ??
2112
Blue/white 06'
This may help kill off the $100K+ ADMs that will be sure to follow. Those things kill brand loyalty. You can shear sheep over and over but cut them only once.
SuperB
Board of Directors/Owner
twobjshelbys
GT Owner
Adjusted for inflation our GTs are in the 250K range. There is a lot of new technology and cost in the new car, primarily all of the CF construction. Then amortize the cost over the total number of units expected (my dealer, some of you know who he is) says expect somewhere around 1000 units total lifetime, and the cost will be >> 250K. The number he quoted me is >> 400K. But noone knows, and the dealers are always the last. He'll have one though
And he didn't answer the question if he'd do MSRP.
SuperB
Board of Directors/Owner
DanQ
GT Owner
Carbon tub cars available now:
The Alfa Romeo 4c, $53,900-$69,000
BMW I3, $41,350- $46,000
BMW I8, $135.000 +
So its unclear if the '16 GT will be 250K or 400K, but I think the cost could create a ceiling on the price of our 05-06's
SMOKDU
GT Owner
- Dec 17, 2011
- 412
Supply and demand. I have seen this going back to the 80's This car no matter what the asking price is will sell to the highest bidder. I see the first cars going as high as $700k maybe higher. At $450 it would be a deal compared to other supercars. What dealer would sell it at $250 ? Why sell it that cheap when there are people in line waiting to offer more a lot more. maybe more then we think. crazy more, stupid more. lol get my point
Dealers all know what the 05 - 06 cars are selling for so why would they sell them for less ? I think this helps our cars values because we set the bar for this car. Look at the new supercars and ask yourself with all this hype about the old GT VALUES why would anyone expect this car to not go up like the old one.
This is also history in the making.
Dealers all know what the 05 - 06 cars are selling for so why would they sell them for less ? I think this helps our cars values because we set the bar for this car. Look at the new supercars and ask yourself with all this hype about the old GT VALUES why would anyone expect this car to not go up like the old one.
This is also history in the making.
Kayvan
GT Owner
- Jul 13, 2006
- 4,782
The technology surrounding carbon fiber production has changed greatly in the past few years. It is now almost cheaper than aluminum! What we don't know is whether the carbon fiber that will be used in the new GT is Aerospace/Formula1 grade, or Chevrolet Corvette grade....Big difference!
GTdrummer
GT Owner
twobjshelbys
GT Owner
Race grade tub. The seats are fixed and molded into the chassis, so this is structural not lower weight body panels.
I'll still doubt the costs of tooling etc. can be amortized over about 1200 civilian vehicles and yield a 250K car (250K is what the 2005 Ford GT would be in today's dollars). I don't see the Ford Board of Directors allowing a loss on each car (but we could make it up in volume).
I think it makes the '05-'06 FGT an instant classic.
The 05/06 FGT was an update of original following the original design aesthetics. This car does not really attempt to do that. A few cues here and there but it deviates tremendously in major ways. The entire car is uber high tech ala' McLaren, Hurican, 458 even Enzo. It has as much if not more design cues from those cars than the Ford GT/GT40.
It is cool and beautiful no doubt but it does not stick to it's roots like the 05/06. The 05/06 was a clear and unmistakable update of it's progenitor. This new one. Not so much. Cool yes but not unmistakable FGT/GT40.
I have a real issue with a V6 too.
In a market competing with Aventadors, 458's, McLarens a $400K Ford with a V6 regardless of it being an ecoboost twim turbo will have a hard time competing against the foregoing "prestigious marks".
My take.
What will it do to 05/06 FGT values? Again, I think it made the current FGT an instant classic overnight.
P.S. With the usual dealer greed and ADMs this new GT will be unobtainium for mere mortals for some time.
The 05/06 FGT was an update of original following the original design aesthetics. This car does not really attempt to do that. A few cues here and there but it deviates tremendously in major ways. The entire car is uber high tech ala' McLaren, Hurican, 458 even Enzo. It has as much if not more design cues from those cars than the Ford GT/GT40.
It is cool and beautiful no doubt but it does not stick to it's roots like the 05/06. The 05/06 was a clear and unmistakable update of it's progenitor. This new one. Not so much. Cool yes but not unmistakable FGT/GT40.
I have a real issue with a V6 too.
In a market competing with Aventadors, 458's, McLarens a $400K Ford with a V6 regardless of it being an ecoboost twim turbo will have a hard time competing against the foregoing "prestigious marks".
My take.
What will it do to 05/06 FGT values? Again, I think it made the current FGT an instant classic overnight.
P.S. With the usual dealer greed and ADMs this new GT will be unobtainium for mere mortals for some time.
Last edited:
ByeEnzo
GT
Kayvan
GT Owner
- Jul 13, 2006
- 4,782
In the interview Jamal says engine is derived from "Daytona Prototype racing engine" they have been racing in IMSA
So with engine/drivetrain coming from the racecar; think they had to outsource the design/production of CF tub, body, interior, ECU, and with wheels/tires to OEMs and they are in business in 12-24 mos.
http://racing.ford.com/series/road-...ong-changes-for-52nd-rolex-24-at-daytona.html
So with engine/drivetrain coming from the racecar; think they had to outsource the design/production of CF tub, body, interior, ECU, and with wheels/tires to OEMs and they are in business in 12-24 mos.
http://racing.ford.com/series/road-...ong-changes-for-52nd-rolex-24-at-daytona.html
Attachments
This sentiment has been expressed here by many. I wonder how much of this is coming from what might be a perceived deficiency vs just a pure distaste of a less-than-v8 internals. In other words, if the powerplant manages to deliver supercar-like numbers AND delivery curves, I wonder if we will really care about the number of cylinders. (Chevy's highest performing V8's are missing half the valves that the "should" have - but somehow pull off unforseen amounts of power and delivery.) In short, if the power/delivery is there, I think the exhaust note is solvable - and let's hope it's not with a larger radio amplifier.
STORMCAT
GT
With a body like that I wouldn't care if it was powered by chipmunks chasing cockroaches around the sides of a Camel hair basket !! :biggrin
Kayvan
GT Owner
- Jul 13, 2006
- 4,782