Anyone have a clue as to how many Mac delete cars so far?
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MAD IN NC
Proud Owner/ BOD blah bla
I'm following the "Sub and Mac delete" thread from BlackIce who last posted in "Ford GT Tech at 3:44AM today after just installing his new Pioneer 4800.
There should be a repalacement stereo "kit" from somebody out there including the Sub Replacement Panel that the 96% of Mac owners can have an alternative option....
There should be a repalacement stereo "kit" from somebody out there including the Sub Replacement Panel that the 96% of Mac owners can have an alternative option....
centerpunch said:
I too think none of the Euro spec'd cars came with a Mac. All the canadian cars so far on this sites registry have standard radio as well.
Did yours come with a Mac delete centerpunch?
Not counting the registry on this site, I've only seen 2 US spec'd cars with a factory Mac delete anywhere: 2006 #498 and 2006 #40, both heritage.
Here are the members from this boards registry with US spec'd cars and no Mac: ENZO BTR, Easy Eric, pl510, neilhellr, AMB, PMC, red gt 1442.
I'd speculate a majority of the Mac delete folks out there are registered on this board. Centerpunch may be well on target with the 1% figure.
BlackICE
GT Owner
I would guess the final count of cars built without subs are between 1% to 5%, or 40 to 200 units. I would guess the real count is near 100. Most of them you never hear about because they are ordered to spec for a specific buyer and they were never on the mkt and probably won't be anytime soon.
The real question is how many cars are converted to cars without the sub? I know of at least 3 on this board, including myself.
BlackICE
The real question is how many cars are converted to cars without the sub? I know of at least 3 on this board, including myself.
BlackICE
My mid-May delivery of an '06 Tungsten will also be sans Mac.
This is possible but probably not a common order.
I think Jay's logic is spot on. Only a relatively small percentage of cars are customer ordered. Of these customer ordered car the vast majority likely have the MAC and are ordered primarily on color/stipe options. Of the dealer-ordered cars, most are pretty heavy spec'd cars to add to the ol' profit margin.
AMB
GT Owner
Mac Delete
I just saw a 06 Heritage GT here in San Diego, Ca. w/o the Mac upgrade. He ordered it that way from Drew Ford. I found my GT w/o the Mac upgrade on the E-Bay website, at Gosch Ford, Hemet,Ca.
AMB
I just saw a 06 Heritage GT here in San Diego, Ca. w/o the Mac upgrade. He ordered it that way from Drew Ford. I found my GT w/o the Mac upgrade on the E-Bay website, at Gosch Ford, Hemet,Ca.
AMB
Side stripe delete
Chip
No, all cars with painted racing stripes have side stripes. The side stripes however are not painted on, they are tape and can be removed in 10 minutes with a hair dryer.White Petunia said:
Chip
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KJD
GT Owner
No Mac for me, anticipating a mid- to late-June delivery. No stripes either, a plain Jane.
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Bart Carter
GT Owner
neilhellr
GT Owner
I ordered mine without the Mac mainly because of the placement of the sub, I know it sounds nuts, but I am always looking for more storage in this car and if it weren't for the pocket where the sub would have been, I'm not sure where I would put all of my stuff!
That said, I will comment that the standard radio is one of the worst factory radios I have encountered in recent years. I do not drive this car for the radio, but it would be nice to have a radio that sounds half as good as the radio in my F150. This is a $170k car...
But hey, I may be the only one that feels this way, I am thrilled with the extra storage!
-Neil
Heritage 0009
That said, I will comment that the standard radio is one of the worst factory radios I have encountered in recent years. I do not drive this car for the radio, but it would be nice to have a radio that sounds half as good as the radio in my F150. This is a $170k car...
But hey, I may be the only one that feels this way, I am thrilled with the extra storage!
-Neil
Heritage 0009
Dr Robert Harms
GT Owner
- Nov 24, 2005
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White Petunia said:
yes there is an option code for the racing stripes (thats costs money and you get them) and an option code for no side stripes (that is free but you do not get a credit)
My 2006 was ordered without the racing stripes and without the optional radio.
Why do most of the cars have the optional radio ? Simple: trace the money. Most cars were ordered by the dealer on spec and the dealer makes money on each option.
cobrajeff
GT Owner
Mac delete
I guess I would have missed on this one..... :confused
I worked at Ford for over thirty years - most of that time in Audio Systems. While I was in Business Planning at Ford Audio, I worked on forecasting the option rates for the audio system options in all of the Ford, Mercury, and Lincoln vehicles. Twice a year we would get together and "vote" on option rates.
I would have forecast, based upon past experience, that the option rate for the McIntosh Audio System option on the GT would be close to 100%. Peoople who buy expensive cars usually buy them loaded - they don't look to save a few pennies on an option that costs less than 5% of the retail price of the vehicle.
I am surprised that so many of you want a GT WITHOUT the Mac option. I guess it does have two strikes against it - the additional weight (about 80 pounds), and the ugly sub that blocks the view of the engine. I am guessing that if the sub were not so obtrusive, there wouldn't be so many of you wanting to delete the Mac?
Anyway, here are the real numbers - for the 2005 model year, 97% of the GTs built had the McIntosh Stereo upgrade. They only built 58 cars without it.
The ratio of Retail to Stock orders is a lot different than most have guessed - the rate for Retail orders was 40%, and nearly 60% of the orders were for Dealer Stock.
regards,
Jeff
I guess I would have missed on this one..... :confused
I worked at Ford for over thirty years - most of that time in Audio Systems. While I was in Business Planning at Ford Audio, I worked on forecasting the option rates for the audio system options in all of the Ford, Mercury, and Lincoln vehicles. Twice a year we would get together and "vote" on option rates.
I would have forecast, based upon past experience, that the option rate for the McIntosh Audio System option on the GT would be close to 100%. Peoople who buy expensive cars usually buy them loaded - they don't look to save a few pennies on an option that costs less than 5% of the retail price of the vehicle.
I am surprised that so many of you want a GT WITHOUT the Mac option. I guess it does have two strikes against it - the additional weight (about 80 pounds), and the ugly sub that blocks the view of the engine. I am guessing that if the sub were not so obtrusive, there wouldn't be so many of you wanting to delete the Mac?
Anyway, here are the real numbers - for the 2005 model year, 97% of the GTs built had the McIntosh Stereo upgrade. They only built 58 cars without it.
The ratio of Retail to Stock orders is a lot different than most have guessed - the rate for Retail orders was 40%, and nearly 60% of the orders were for Dealer Stock.
regards,
Jeff
Good info Jeff. When I was at SSV last week they said the tick rate for the Mc option was still above 95%.
I think pretty much everyone who doesn't want the McIntosh doesn't want it simply because of the sub spacing. Space is at a premium already, and it blocks that beautiful engine view. I'd rather have a McIntosh stereo than whatever the standard one is now (nobody seemed to know when I told them to can the Mc from the order :lol), but not at the expense of the engine view.
I think pretty much everyone who doesn't want the McIntosh doesn't want it simply because of the sub spacing. Space is at a premium already, and it blocks that beautiful engine view. I'd rather have a McIntosh stereo than whatever the standard one is now (nobody seemed to know when I told them to can the Mc from the order :lol), but not at the expense of the engine view.
AZGT
GT Owner
Interesting information.
You are right. The price of the option is not so much the issue as is the fugly woofer. Just too intrusive. One of the few things on the car that should have been designed differently.
You are right. The price of the option is not so much the issue as is the fugly woofer. Just too intrusive. One of the few things on the car that should have been designed differently.