exhaust system; still on the fence


Gene Cassone

GT Owner
Mark II Lifetime
Dec 3, 2005
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way upstate NY
I have an '05. Still looking for an after market exhaust. Looking to save weight, lower temps and mild increase in sound with no highway drone. I was not able to attend this year's gatherings to hear the different systems. Looking for advice.
And can anyone comment on whether baffles make a diference? Thanks
 
My $.02 - Go with the Accufab - you won't be sorry.
 
Stainless Works long tube headers. Significant weight reduction, unrestrictive, dramatically enhances underhood eye appeal, improves center of gravity, eliminates engine bay clutter, far less radiant heat, emission compliant (with high flow metal cats) and sounds awesome. The system may be too loud for some at startup and over 3,500 rpm.
 
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Joe, those headers do look nice. Would it be possible for the guys that have researched this issue to post the various vendors for the systems and approximate prices of the systems as well. It seems everytime I dig into this issue I get side tracked and have to start over. I've made no progress. My main concern is to eliminate the heat as much as possible and aquire a little deeper sound without the drone on the highway. Am I out in left field or can this be done?

Thanks MIke
 
Would it be possible for the guys that have researched this issue to post the various vendors for the systems and approximate prices of the systems as well.
The forum search function will provide voluminous information!
 
Every cat back system is going to be loud. Accufab is the least expensive. Some believe Accufab is louder than the Heffner which has the best tips. If you're in the northeast, check out Bob Ida. I chose Heffner because it had the most exhilarating sound, but this is a very subjective issue.
 
I've got the Heffner and have run with and without the baffles. To my ear, absolutely no difference. Good thing I think it sounds great!
 
I'll throw in my .02 cents with my Stillen cat back exhaust. Jet hot coated helps cool things down. They are located in Costa Mesa, California.
 
I have an '05. Still looking for an after market exhaust. Looking to save weight, lower temps and mild increase in sound with no highway drone. I was not able to attend this year's gatherings to hear the different systems. Looking for advice.
And can anyone comment on whether baffles make a diference? Thanks

I'm very pleased with my Heffner - one of the sweetest looking, saves about 50 lbs, lower temp and the sound that our cars should've come with stock. Check it out below.

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6768&page=3
 
Most if not all aftermarket systems will have what some will call at drone at a certain RPM around 2000-2100. This is due to the natural resonance of the interior that magnifies sound in at certain frequencies. Some are more sensitive too it that others, but it is there. Most that don't hear it because, they drive with the windows not completely shut (changes the resonances frequency), don't drive at that RPM range, or the is so much exhaust louder at 2000+ rpm that you don't notice it.

I have a Heffner and find a resonnance in that rpm band, but only when on the gas and not if steady state cruising at a small throttle opening. Changing to a different RPM with a downshift will make it go away.
 
Although this has been covered in other threads, I am happy with the Borla (Ford) muffler. It's a little louder with no drone. Looks nice with "Ford Racing" script. I polished mine before installation.
 
Although this has been covered in other threads, I am happy with the Borla (Ford) muffler. It's a little louder with no drone. Looks nice with "Ford Racing" script. I polished mine before installation.

Yes, tThe Borla will have the least chance of drone for an non-stock exhaust, since it has a large can which the designers can use to tune out the resonance frequencies.
 
Hey Mike,

I've had the luxury of hearing about every exhaust available (thanks to many car shows and the recent Rally) and I've installed several of them so I have a first-hand view on quality, design, etc. Unfortunately, my subjective view of the sound volume and quality will not necessarily match everyone elses opinion!

For your shopping and comparison criteria, sound, appearance (tip design, finish, etc.), and weight savings should all be considered. As for the generation of less heat - a Jet-hot coated exhaust will have less radiant under-hood heat than the same system non-coated. In terms of an exhaust system's effect on engine water temps.... I'll take the minority position to tell you that there's likely NO measureable water temp reduction with any exhaust. While it's true that some exhaust systems may have a slightly improved airflow in the engine bay - this will have little effect on engine run temps. (We have water-cooled engines with the radiators located in the FRONT of the vehicle so ambient engine bay temps DON'T have that much of an effect.) That said, ambient air temps in the engine bay CAN contribute to higher air inlet temps if/when the airbox and intake manifold become heat soaked. The GT's programming is very reactive to air inlet temps as we all are aware.

For what it's worth, here's some of my impressions & opinions;

Group 1 - The Muffler Replacement Pipes:

Accufab - Popular. Priced right. "X-design" promotes HP. Lightweight. No attractive tips - but many prefer this "bare" look. Sounds great. Some owners have spoken of slight drone in the 2000 area.

Heffner - Similar design to Accufab. Uses balancing pipe instead of X-design like Accufab. Has better, more robust, mounting flanges than Accufab (my opinion). Has nice, dual-wall tips. A little pricier than some others. A little deeper sound than the Accufab. Heffner also offers a Rear Bumper Delete version of the exhaust with the tips moved back about 5.25".

Ida - Another exhaust similar in design to Accufab & Heffner - perhaps more closely resembling the Accufab. Ida was one of the first to market. I've not installed one of these so I cannot comment on mounting/construction. Sound is most similar to the Accufab.

Stillen - The new kid on the block. Like the Accufab it is a "X-design". The quality looks very good. Comes with Jet-coat finish and reasonably priced (compared to others). Straight, no-tip design. I think the sound most closely resembles the Accufab. Stillen allegedly working on Rear Bumper Delete version of exhaust.

Group 2 - Modified Muffler Design

Borla (Offered through Ford Racing) - This was one of the first available mufflers for the GT and consequently was quite popular. It is a scaled down version of the stock muffler and using the same mounts with about 75% of the size and about 1/2 the weight. Very nice, large, Borla tips. The tips are removable. There are two advantages. 1) there are more alignment possibilities and; 2) if you go with a rear bumper delete down the road, you can keep this exhaust and just use new (shortened) tips. The major criticisms of this exhaust is that early adopters thought the sound was too mild for the $ spent and the other critique is that it still employs a heavy (~28lb?) muffler. However, this muffler in conjunction with some up-stream mods is arguably one of the leaders in the quality of sound dept.

Group 3 - Exhaust Header Systems

Ford Racing Rear Exit Headers - This is the system that I use throughout the last year (~3,000 miles). It is comprised of headers that wind back into a Borla collector muffler (muffler is over-statement) and then out through some very attractive Borla tips. The rpm lung at start-up will be missed by my neighbors - NOT! Idle after start-up is tame. Throttle blips can send people running. It is possible to drive the car somewhat quietly but you have to have a very soft foot. Gas pedal from 1/3 to 3/3 is VERY loud. However, the system will not drone at cruise speeds and could easily be driven long distances without fatigue. However, absolutely no room to add cats or mufflers. If you get busted for sound or emissions, you are SOL with this system.

Ford Racing Long Tube Headers - This system replaces your exhaust manifolds and cats. It uses the manifold/cat real estate to route a nice, quality made set of long tube headers. The exit point of this system is EXACTLY the same as where the CAT exit was - so you have the exact flange and mounting. It is intended to be used with the Borla muffler. In my opinion the sound of this system is amoung the best for quality. (The Borla sounds good in the first place, IMO, but just too quiet. The Boral muffler "wakes up" when you have no cats in front of it. This system also has the drawback of not being able to add cats to it. There's no room.

Stainless Works Headers - Another high-quality header system. Similar to the Ford Racing Rear Exit Headers but owners have managed to squeeze in a small CAT which helps both with emissions and a (very) modest amount of baffling. I believe that this system is slightly louder than the Ford Racing Rear Exit Headers (The Borla Collector Muffler is a hair better at muffling compared to the small cats in the Stainless Works version.) advantage is that there IS cats. However, all cats no created equal and no known data if these cats will pass smog (sniffer) check. Unique (angled) pipe exit through exhaust surround opening. Unique look - purposeful.

Group 4 - Related Exhaust Accessories

Ford Racing Cat Delete Pipes - These are 1-1 replacements for your cats and will noticeably increase the sound volume. More than just a straight pipe, these substitute pipes have a very small resonator.

Stillen CAT Replacement Resonators - Similar to the Ford Racing pipes above, these have much larger resonators and stillen claims much better sound quality (their objective) as a result.


My Preferences (for what it's worth):

I will be installing the Heffner (Rear Bumper Delete Version). I really like the deeper tone of the exhaust compared to Accufab/Ida. I am a tip guy and Heffner uses some very attractive (double wall) tips that look great and afford some protection of the black exhaust surround trim piece. Concerned that I will miss my Ford Racing set-up too much, I will likely also have a set of Stillen Resonators that I will occasionally use in place of the cats. If it is too loud and/or smog time comes, I can put the cats in. The swap back and forth is not too difficult.

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I also believe that the Borla Muffler used in conjunction with the Stillen Resonators will be a very good choice. I am doing this set-up on two differnt cars in the coming weeks and I believe it will be a very nice set-up. The Borla also affords you to do the Rear Bumper Delete in the future without having to buy another exhaust system.

I hope I haven't made many mistakes in the info I provided. I may have - so others can chime in and correct me and I apologize in advance if any errors.
 
Very nice and, I believe, accurate assessment Kendall.
 
Kendall, thanks for the excellent review. I will be adding the Ford intermediate pipes with the Vortex baffles to my Heffner exhaust soon. My hope is the baffles will tame some of the added noise from the Ford cat delete pipes.
 
Nicely done Kendall. I have the Ford Racing headers in a box but am somewhat intimidated by the installation. I have installed the Borla muffler and the Ford trans cooler. I have a 4 post lift at my house. How tough is it to install the headers?
 
How tough is it to install the headers?

I think the lift is mandatory. The job is more time consuming than difficult. You will have to disconnect the halfshafts at the infamous transaxle flange to sneak the cats out of there and to fit the headers in. Good time to do the Accufab bolt upgrade if you haven't already. Make sure you disconnect your battery before you start as you will be moving a lot of objects very close to your starter's battery cable. You will also want to remove the heat shields on the underside of the transaxle output flanges - bolts on the driver's side and nuts on the passenger side (go figure). Remove the heat shields on the upper and lower side of each exhaust manifold. The nuts for the stock exhaust manifolds are pretty accessible. You will likely have to remove most of the studs too (hex ends) to get the manifolds off. When installing the headers, there will be a couple of bolts that require some creativity to get a socket on but nothing too bad. Just have an assorment of extensions and wobblers and you should be OK. It helps if you think LONG..... often times you can get a nice location for the ratchet by adding a couple of extensions. The lift is critical as you will likely spend an equal amount of time on each of the top and bottom sides of the GT.

Again, not a bad job at all - just do it when you have some time and a slow pace that won't get you frustrated.
 
I really appreciate all the input. Nice summary Kendal. I believe it is down to the Borla (first info I have seen concerning the weight difference compared to stock-28 lbs) and the heffner system . Still little is known about the Tubi setup!!
 
NOTE: Remember anytime you remove Cats. on any of the above exhaust systems for your GT you are probabily not street legal. *( won't pass emissions test in most states). TGH
 
NOTE: Remember anytime you remove Cats. on any of the above exhaust systems for your GT you are probabily not street legal. *( won't pass emissions test in most states). TGH

Point well taken, I believe most everyone on this board, only runs catless during an open track, and not on the public roadways. But the reminder is well appreciated.