Changing Fluids


HOOKED ON GT

GT Owner
Oct 26, 2006
121
Orlando & Australia
I've only had 3-4 oil/filter changes since 2005, everything else is still as per leaving factory floor.

I called Ford dealership and had a good chat to service guy and he then met with head tech and manager and basically said to do oil change but everything else is fine.
I mentioned that water and brake fluids don't mix well with life span.
I also mentioned the cost of GT parts and "investing in the car now to save money in the future"

He did say that they would be happy to "look at the condition" of the fluids to see how their traveling and go from there.

Stuart
 

jcthorne

GT Owner
Aug 30, 2011
792
Houston
I think you need a new dealer that understands basic maintenance schedules published by Ford. And that your GT is not an Explorer.

If all fluids other than oil are now 10 yrs old, you are WAY overdue for fluid changes. Coolant in both loops, brake and clutch fluids, power steering fluid.

Likely other maintenance needs updating too. Oil pump drive belt?
 

Indy GT

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Jan 14, 2006
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Agree with jcthorne!:agree:

Dump the dealer and get your fluids and belts serviced by FGT professionals who know the car. Get this service done by the GT Guys when you attend R10.
ALL your fluids need to be changed.

Don't let the dealer "'look at the condition' of the fluids to see how their traveling" (?). After 10 years, they all need to be replaced without question.
 

jaxgt

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Jul 12, 2006
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Agree with jcthorne!:agree:

Dump the dealer and get your fluids and belts serviced by FGT professionals who know the car. Get this service done by the GT Guys when you attend R10.
ALL your fluids need to be changed.

Don't let the dealer "'look at the condition' of the fluids to see how their traveling" (?). After 10 years, they all need to be replaced without question.
Do that!
 

MTV8

GT Owner
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Jul 24, 2010
914
Houston Texas
Is it necessary/desirable to warm up the engine before draining the oil?
I start it for a few seconds before an oil change to keep from going through the priming procedure on a dry engine.
 

w.a.nelson

GT Owner
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Feb 29, 2008
897
Asbury, NJ and Bourne, MA
Thanks for the input, guys.

I did a little Google search too, and this seems like a typical issue where people, including manufacturers and Harley guys, come down on both sides.

Opinions lean toward some degree of warmth, and I don't see a really strong downside to this, so that's what I'll do. Pretty sure that's what I've done in the past, but memory cells don't work so well these days.

Howard, good advice for sure. I didn't think it through that way. Only trouble is, with the time it takes me to get the car up on stands, the oil will be cold again! I'll work on my pit crew skills and try it your way next time.
 

RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
7,279
I've only had 3-4 oil/filter changes since 2005, everything else is still as per leaving factory floor.

I called Ford dealership and had a good chat to service guy and he then met with head tech and manager and basically said to do oil change but everything else is fine.
I mentioned that water and brake fluids don't mix well with life span.
I also mentioned the cost of GT parts and "investing in the car now to save money in the future"

He did say that they would be happy to "look at the condition" of the fluids to see how their traveling and go from there.

Stuart
You really need to at least change your Oil Pump Belt!! Since you have not been driving it much, the belt can take a set, and come apart upon running. An engine that loses oil pressure will be a disaster and very expensive!
 

HOOKED ON GT

GT Owner
Oct 26, 2006
121
Orlando & Australia
This look the best bet....
Engine Oil
Brake Oil
Coolant Fluid
Clutch Fluid
Power Steering Fluid
Oil Pump Belt.

BTW.. Was at Ferrari in Orlando yesterday looking at a La Ferrari and hanging out (got a drive in the new convertible Cali tt) and was heading home in GT and I noticed that the shift gate was stiff and clunky when swinging it across in neutral. Gear shifts when driving was fine but it wouldn't spring back to the center when I let the stick go at lights...weird as it just turned up
Any ideas?


Anything else?

When R10
 

Indy GT

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Jan 14, 2006
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Greenwood, IN
Engine Oil
Brake Oil
Coolant Fluid
Clutch Fluid
Power Steering Fluid
Oil Pump Belt.
Hooked, your list looks pretty good. Understand “Coolant Fluid” should include the fluid in the engine cooling circuit and the coolant in the intercooler circuit. Two separate systems. And you probably should change the transaxle fluid as well using the Ford recommended transaxle fluid which is uniquely sourced from Ricaro the gearbox supplier. Perhaps change the supercharger belt as well as 10 years for a rubber belt is probably long enough service. I again echo what other owners have recommended by having individuals perform the aforementioned services who know the car. This means NOT just going to your local Ford dealer and handing over the keys and a work list. Getting all the air out of the coolant systems can be somewhat tricky and can lead to unhappy outcomes with engine temperatures if not evacuated properly. Again, go to those GT service specialists recommended in this thread. Or schedule with the GT Guys when you come to Detroit for R10.

…and I noticed that the shift gate was stiff and clunky when swinging it across in neutral. Gear shifts when driving was fine but it wouldn't spring back to the center when I let the stick go at lights
I have the OE shifter (not the short throw which you might have) and I do not believe there is any spring loaded “centering” force while in the neutral gate. Mine is smooth and not clunky in any way. Honestly, I do not have any shifting difficulty (except the occasional 1-2 shift when cold which has been chronicled numerous times). Perhaps others can help. I do remember one owner having difficulty with shifting and when they replaced the shifting cable which is routed thru the center of the car to the transaxle, the installation of an aftermarket exhaust system had produced a heat load on the outer plastic sheath of this cable which melted the sheath and caused internal cable resistance. This was just lack of radiant barrier shielding with a non-OE exhaust.

???
 

fjpikul

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Jan 4, 2006
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Belleville, IL
I hope you didn't use oil for brake fluid.You might want to check a/c.
 

dpdive

GT Owner
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Feb 23, 2009
93
Buffalo, NY
Evans waterless coolant. Lifetime use, boils at 375 F. No water-no corrosion.
 

HOOKED ON GT

GT Owner
Oct 26, 2006
121
Orlando & Australia
I'm going to check whats been done on my in recent services.
Probably will tell them to re do all the fluids as well in the near future being a FL resident (humidity)

FYI... Popped in to Accufab yesterday to get some half shaft bolts and they have a new awesome oil filer for the Gt's, they didn't like the way the stock ones are looking on oil changes.
Not sure if it's on their site yet (don't think so) but if your up for a changes this wire (super fine) is impressive. I'm guessing reusable?

Stuart
 

FerrariSlayer

GT Owner
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Feb 3, 2014
118
Spring, TX
I just helped service Iconic's 2005 GT last week at an "expert's" shop where all the fluids were changed. I'm sure the Airlift is an excellent tool and you certainly need something like this to avoid air pockets. I purchased the Mac Tools Air/Evac AEV700 from eBay for $49.99 plus $9.99 shipping, which seemed to be the tool of choice and did an effective job.
 

bobster_rulez

Member
Dec 4, 2012
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GT guys did mine last year that would have been 1300 miles and 9 years but well worth it
 

FENZO

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Jul 7, 2008
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Gotta clean the pipes, bro.


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HOOKED ON GT

GT Owner
Oct 26, 2006
121
Orlando & Australia
Why wouldn't Ford have a GT service agent specifically with certified knowledge of GT procedures.

Ferrari have La Ferrari techs already that have been trained, how hard can it be...?

Our GT isn't as complicated as the a 1.4mil F car thats for sure..

Im in Orlando, so not a enough GT styled guys here apart from what Ford can offer....sad

Stuart
 

RALPHIE

GT Owner
Mar 1, 2007
7,279
Why wouldn't Ford have a GT service agent specifically with certified knowledge of GT procedures.

Ferrari have La Ferrari techs already that have been trained, how hard can it be...?

Our GT isn't as complicated as the a 1.4mil F car thats for sure..

Im in Orlando, so not a enough GT styled guys here apart from what Ford can offer....sad

Stuart
Initially, at Ford agencies which sold Ford GT, Master Technicians were specifically trained to work on our cars - a prominent service position. However, in my case, the dealership sought not to maintain his employment by not keeping him up financially, so he left the agency and went to the San Diego Gas & Electric Company to help maintain their fleet of trucks at a sizable increase in compensation.

Some have stayed at their agencies, but many have moved on - leaving their capability in the hands of the few individuals spaced around the country who are dedicated to the cars.
 

quahog

GT Owner
Mar 12, 2017
22
Cape Cod
Can someone provide a procedure for coolant draining ? Get to the front rads from below being the start , Is this a workable gravity drain procedure ? or are block drains accessable ? Have access to presure fill system but thats only after emptying the systems it comes into play . Amounts/ gal per system ? Thanks , Its Spring , quahog
 

MNJason

GT Owner
May 14, 2010
2,033
Twin Cities
GT Guys did all of mine at the 3 year mark plus the belts. Cheap insurance!
 

PeteK

GT Owner
Apr 18, 2014
1,262
Kalama, WA
You want to drain it warm, and reasonably quickly after you shut it off. It won't hurt anything if you don't, but the rationale goes like this: 1. The hotter the oil, the more of it will drain out and not stick to the innards (oil gets thinner with temp.); 2. the oil will have suspended more of the junk in the crankcase and reservoir so you get more of that stuff out. Practically speaking, it probably doesn't make much difference, since most of us don't leave the oil in long enough to get much contamination, but that's the theory anyway.

Now, about the coolant--there are test strips you can buy at some auto parts stores (probably the professional ones, not the big-box places) that test coolant condition. I haven't used them myself yet, but I'm thinking about it. You can also buy coolant additives which replenish the lubricant/anticorrosion package in the coolant. The water and ethylene glycol don't break down in a sealed system, so I think it's kind of pointless to dispose of still useable coolant.

Speaking of coolant, one trick that might help a little with you racers if you run hot is to reduce the amount of glycol mix to water. Instead of 50/50, go to 40/60 (glycol/water) or 33/67. Water has a higher specific heat than glycol, and it's less viscous, both of which which help increase heat transfer.