Barrett Jackson looks down the road at collector cars.


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Barrett-Jackson looks down the road at collector cars.

Chad Graham
The Arizona Republic
Aug. 6, 2006 12:00 AM

Much has been written about the eye-popping sales brought by the Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction held annually in Scottsdale and West Palm Beach, Fla.

This year, for example, a 1970 Hemi 'Cuda convertible sold for $2.16 million.

What kind of car, sold today, would make for a good future investment?

"I just bought a Ford GT,"
said Craig Jackson, president and chief executive officer of the auction house started by his father and a business partner in the 1960s. "It's got a great history, and they're not making that many of them."
Jackson, 47, who made headlines last month after buying Paul McCartney's first guitar for nearly $620,000, said collector-car sales continues to grow rapidly as baby boomers retire and come into inheritance money.

He's working to expand the Barrett-Jackson brand to consumers who are new to the collectible market through a long-time deal with the Speed Channel Cable Network, the Barrett-Jackson Experience magazine and various licensing deals.

What does the future hold for the company? Jackson answered a half-dozen questions on the subject for The Arizona Republic:

Question: The boomers are buying collectible cars, but will younger generations have the same passion?

Answer: This year at the auction we did the "Family Value Day," which I found real eye-opening. There was no auction going on, but we had all the cars there and all the vendors. I had no idea of how many people would show up and estimated 3,000 to 5,000. We had 12,000 paid adults and 15,000 kids.

My business partner and I were walking through a field and we heard two 10-year-olds talking about whether a Shelby is a real Shelby or a clone. We go up to the kids, who recognize us from TV, and they said, 'We've been watching you since we were kids.' So, they're learning.

Q: Is there any danger this frenzied market will collapse?

A: There are 77 million baby boomers and there are roughly 660 Hemi 'Cuda convertibles and coupes; a little more than the number of Dusenbergs. Think of how many thousands of guys would like to own one.

The only time our market has had a downside is when a whole lot of people got into it who had no love for the cars and that was in the late 1980s and 1990s. There was a lot of speculation and a lot of people who jumped out of the market and started treating the cars as commodities.

Q: Where is future growth going to come from?

A: I'm going to do more in the media, merchandise and knowledge area. I've got a very good game plan laid out for the next few years, and I'm very bullish on it. We know how our customers are wired, what they like and what they're looking forward to.

Q: What is the most pressing issue facing the auction house?

A: Me being able to grow it as fast as the demand is. That's why I've hired a COO, in-house business development and counsel to take those jobs off my back and allow me to be CEO. It allows me not to be there in the trenches every day and allow them to go out and build the management infrastructure that I need.

Q: How has the business grown in 2006?

A: This year so far we did $135 million in car sales, plus the other revenue. We're about at about $145 million in revenues. We get the majority of business done in the first two quarters when the auctions occur. In 2005, we were at about $100 million.

We are growing pretty substantially, but we're growing in a methodical way. We're adding more days to Florida, adding more days to the Scottsdale event. Florida has doubled every year in size. This year we had 1,200 bidders and we did $35 million in sales. It took us 32 years to get to that point in Scottsdale, where we did 48 registered bidders and $100 million in sales in January at the one event.

Q: What do you plan to do with Paul McCartney's first guitar?

A: This is really the guitar that's really at the crux of the start of the Beatles. It'll probably spend most of its time in the safe, but I'm going to loan it to the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland.
 
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I hope he is right, the way I see it is a bit different:
I think, as baby boomers retire, have time and money, prices will go up, for several years maybe 15-20 years.
Then, as many of the baby boomers retire to the afterlife, those cars will be sold by their heirs to buy houses and such. So many will be sold that prices will fall. Major collectors will buy them up as long term investments and supply will vastly dry up. Maybe 30 years from now prices will then climb again.

So, I'd say the peak is at 15 and 30 years from today. The valley at around 22.

BUT, what do I know. Not much really. :biggrin
 
Brian - I think you are right. How many people still collect Model T's?

Somebody once told me that the reasons these Muscle cars are so hot is that many people are still trying to re- live high schools days and their first date.

:biggrin
 
Barrett-Jackson in Scottsdale

January, 2007, will be my first time at a B-J Auction. I figure, what better way to celebrate my 60th birthday? I am not in the market for a car - I LOVE cars, but, I already have three of my favorites - a '57 T'Bird (I was ten years old when that car came out - I used to ride my bicycle to the lot where dealer's stored their new cars to see next year's models), a HiPo '65 Mustang GT convert, and a fiberglass replica (by ERA) of a 289 FIA Cobra. I am, just plain and simple, a car-nut - I love cars, especially high-performance Fords (I worked at Ford for over 30 years).

The new Ford GT is a real high-water benchmark. I mean, the original GT's from the 60's, well, they're priceless - but WHO want want to drive one everyday? They were a race car, not meant for everyday driving - no A/C, no power anything - just go 200mph+ on the track. The new one will do all that, and so much more.

I had a mid-engine car for many years (a Pantera with a BOSS 351 and Webers) - it was a really sweet car - the new GT is everything the Pantera was and more - killer looks, stunning performance, functional creature comforts, and an incredible heritage to boot. Sure, they'll depreciate for a few years, (just like Shelby Cobras did), but, with only about 4200 of them to go around, some day, they may be priceless.

....just my thoughts...

Looking forward to meeting a bunch of you guys in Dearborn next week.

regards,

Jeff
 
On target.

MAD IN NC said:
Brian - I think you are right. How many people still collect Model T's?

Somebody once told me that the reasons these Muscle cars are so hot is that many people are still trying to re- live high schools days and their first date.

:biggrin
When I was a kid the older guys with all the money were collecting boat tailed roadsters and gull winged Mercedes. Prices were through the roof. My father told me those were cars his generation lusted after but could not afford in their youth. Buying one fulfilled a life long dream and reminded them of the good old days. We always love the music we listened to and the cars we desired as teenagers. Unlike many of the girls, the cars still look great and many of the songs still sound great 40 years later. 40 years from now the teenagers of today who have made it will be paying HUGE money for the Ford GT's they can only look at and dream about today, (especially yellow ones with black stripes) :banana Not that it will do me any good. I'm sure my son will enjoy the money.

Chip
 
ChipBeck said:
I'm sure my son will enjoy the money.

Chip

You mean enjoy dring the GT his old man bought from new...:-)
 
Young man with a plan.

one of 101 said:
You mean enjoy driving the GT his old man bought from new...:-)
When the GT was delivered to our house my 13 year old son said "I can't wait till I'm older and I own a GT". I told him to do well in school so he could make enough money to get one. Pointing to my GT he replied, "I don't need to buy one, I'm gonna end up with this one!" :bored

Chip
 
A vehicle that appears to be out selling the total restoration is the muscle cars with modern components (the so called "resto-mods"). At the Palm Beach Barrett-Jackson, the resto-mod Corvettes strongly outsold the potential Bloomington cars.

The buyer of these restomods are increasingly the sons of the baby boomers. They saw their fathers lusting after the cars of the 50s and 60s, and that was their inspiration to want them, but they want them more modern.

Some would argue that our GTs are somewhat of a resto-mod...the Shelby 500 is unquestionably so...as will be the Boss 302....the next Z28 Camaro...modern interpretation for those who want the joy without the hemmorhoids.

- doc
 
ChipBeck said:
When I was a kid the older guys with all the money were collecting boat tailed roadsters and gull winged Mercedes. Prices were through the roof. My father told me those were cars his generation lusted after but could not afford in their youth. Buying one fulfilled a life long dream and reminded them of the good old days.

True.

That's why our generation is no so much into Dusenburgs as they are the muscle. Happens with all collectables - we like Elvis and the Beatles, our parents liked Benny Goodman. We like Star Wars, our parents wanted Hummels.

So let's project ahead 30 years. The Sentras, Supras, and Civics will be the "new" muscle cars - the new collector cars that the kids couldn't afford but wanted. But, wait - they also wanted the GT. Soooooooo, look in 30 years for the "hot" cars to be rice rockets and GTs.

If I'm worng, call me then and let me know :wink
 
I'm sure GT will be worth money, and over time be a good enough investment, but not the 2 Million + (today money) of some classics.

Who knows, I hope they are worth 1.2 million next year so i can trade mine in for a veyron :biggrin
 
eshrink said:
A vehicle that appears to be out selling the total restoration is the muscle cars with modern components (the so called "resto-mods"). At the Palm Beach Barrett-Jackson, the resto-mod Corvettes strongly outsold the potential Bloomington cars.

The buyer of these restomods are increasingly the sons of the baby boomers. They saw their fathers lusting after the cars of the 50s and 60s, and that was their inspiration to want them, but they want them more modern.

Some would argue that our GTs are somewhat of a resto-mod...the Shelby 500 is unquestionably so...as will be the Boss 302....the next Z28 Camaro...modern interpretation for those who want the joy without the hemmorhoids.

- doc

I have to agree, Rest-o-mods are bringing in the dollars, only during the last couple of years have we seen big money be paid for these cars. Now the real question is, who is buying them, I know as a serious collector that I demand a car with proven history and a 'real' car not a counterfit. There are so many counterfit Vettes, Camaro's that when the registry comes out many sellers will have to go into hiding. The market is at a very dangerous peak.
Buyer should use extreame caution.
 
AZGT said:
True.

That's why our generation is no so much into Dusenburgs as they are the muscle. Happens with all collectables - we like Elvis and the Beatles, our parents liked Benny Goodman. We like Star Wars, our parents wanted Hummels.

So let's project ahead 30 years. The Sentras, Supras, and Civics will be the "new" muscle cars - the new collector cars that the kids couldn't afford but wanted. But, wait - they also wanted the GT. Soooooooo, look in 30 years for the "hot" cars to be rice rockets and GTs.

If I'm worng, call me then and let me know :wink

I wonder what computer, plastic trim, and wiring parts will be available in 30 years. Or if cars will be just put away and not restored?
 
Hopefully it'll be worth a few bucks, but either way I won't care. I'm going to drive it regularly, taper off the mileage in 6-7, and eventually make it a special event only car in 10-15 years. If it's worth something to someone else, great. If it's not, won't bother me at all...
 
DBK said:
Hopefully it'll be worth a few bucks, but either way I won't care. I'm going to drive it regularly, taper off the mileage in 6-7, and eventually make it a special event only car in 10-15 years. If it's worth something to someone else, great. If it's not, won't bother me at all...


With 4000 cars made, one can't expect to see great appreciation, end of story.
Your have the right attitude, you bought a wonderful car, you are driving it, life is good. :thumbsup
 
bony said:
With 4000 cars made, one can't expect to see great appreciation, end of story.
Your have the right attitude, you bought a wonderful car, you are driving it, life is good. :thumbsup

Wait a minute - what happened to bouncy? Dumping her for a new girl? Bringing the new girl to the rally?
 
I love how no matter what the topic is, it ends up migrating to Bony's ho of the month. :lol
 
DBK said:
I love how no matter what the topic is, it ends up migrating to Bony's ho of the month. :lol

Well Mr. Site Owner, I have enough that I could change them weekly, like I do my white socks :biggrin
 
bony said:
With 4000 cars made, one can't expect to see great appreciation, end of story.

remember there are about 100 million more of us than in 1970 and with the growth of disposable income comes more buyers of high $$ toys.
 
A car collector friend of mine put it nicely for me.
He said taking special car of any car won't prevent it from needing a body off restoration 20 years down the road. Not sure I 100% agree with that, but it has some merit.

Why put it in a closet expecting to make a fortune one day. Drive it, enjoy it then when it needs it, restore it to factory specs for the auction block.

Just don't wreck it :wink

Sure, low low miles will make a difference, buy why own it if you're not going to use it.
 
Most collectors know that a car stored for years in a bubble needs everything.
Cars need to be ran a little every few months... I am so guilty of not doing this. :thumbsdow