Well it finally happened....I broke my GT


No fowl on your behalf, you have gone through what many of us have, you are sharing your appreciation of the wonderful team that got your car back together. The topic is VERY VERY well discussed, so the threads path after is ...... :dead:

Shall we discuss gauges too?

Oh boy, This must have happened long before I came aboard...
 
No fowl on your behalf, you have gone through what many of us have, you are sharing your appreciation of the wonderful team that got your car back together. The topic is VERY VERY well discussed, so the threads path after is ...... :dead:

Shall we discuss gauges too?

LOL, One of those failed last year too, Amy and I fixed that in the garage...
 
...Shall we discuss gauges too?

& tires
& oil
& A-arms
& shocks
& emblem pitting
& clearbra
& Clearplex
& etc.

:thumbsup
:lol
 
& tires
& oil
& A-arms
& shocks
& emblem pitting
& clearbra
& Clearplex
& etc.

:thumbsup
:lol

Must not forget:

& Auction Results
& Current Prices
& Future Prices
 
Must not forget:

& Auction Results
& Current Prices
& Future Prices

Search key is your friend.
 
Must not forget:

& Auction Results
& Current Prices
& Future Prices

And why current owners should get first crack at the NFGT.

Hey, we gotta talk about sumthin.
 
Wonder if he's gone back to his room now.
 
:skep I don't see the need...
 
I'll take gauge failure any day over half-shaft bolt failure.
 
I'll take gauge failure any day over half-shaft bolt failure.
half shaft bolts - fixed in 24 hours - gauges not so fast
 
Pete if you are not the original owner, it would be easy to have had them changed by an independent mechanic, with the accufab kit (or) and not show on the OASIS report.
I doubt it. This car belonged to the Ford dealer in Rising Sun MD for the 8 years before I bought it. If anyone touched it, it would have been his own shop, no? But we'll find out in a week...
 
I doubt it. This car belonged to the Ford dealer in Rising Sun MD for the 8 years before I bought it. If anyone touched it, it would have been his own shop, no? But we'll find out in a week...


Well here is a new one for ya... Rich called today with an update... My car did indeed have a bolt kit done... All be it, it was installed incorrectly with no loctite and they also backed out, causing the axle to shift and gear lube to spill all over...... On a good note, no damage done and the Bridgestone are on... She's coming home Monday..
 
What part of PA? My ride needs inspected but selling &*local dealers do not want to touch...
 
What part of PA? My ride needs inspected but selling &*local dealers do not want to touch...

Erie
 
My car did indeed have a bolt kit done... All be it, it was installed incorrectly with no loctite and they also backed out, causing the axle to shift and gear lube to spill all over......

If memory serves, one or two others on this forum have gone thru the same ordeal.
 
Car is all done, Axle is fixed and she got some new shoes too..Transporter is bringing her home right now. Ready for some summer driving, and the Rally of course........... Thanks again to The GT GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Probably not a bad thing that this subject resurrected into "new stuff", based on the number of original bolts still out there. I can't imagine any owner who knows about the problem not having such a cheap and effective replacement done. Mine went while cruising on the freeway, on a test section done in concrete. The seams created a cyclic "jump", annoying but nothing dramatic. I took my desired exit, coasted to the stop sign, and no go. Pushed over to the side and a flat deck from there. It can happen with no hard acceleration, in a car that has had little hard driving, and it WILL be inconvenient. Happening on a Sunday, I was most fortunate to find a dealer (dealerships here all closed on Sunday) willing to open the doors so the car did not just sit out on the lot overnight. Repeat: I can't imagine any owner who knows.....
 
Following up this topic. I went to John Bailey's gathering of the middle Atlantic GT lunatics this Saturday and had the GT Guys do some work on my car. 30Kmi service, spring adjusters and checking it over. I also asked them to check the tranny axle bolts. Yup, mine were still original.

I asked Rich to measure the release torque on the bolts and it was about 40 ft-lbs on all 4 bolts (2 per side), and THEY WERE ORIGINAL BOLTS. No problems, not broken, not cracked (that I can see with a plain magnifying glass), perfectly good. I wanted them replaced anyway, because they already were in there, and they had the kit to do it. BUT, if you have more than say 10,000 miles on the car, and the bolts haven't failed by now, I can now make a pretty good mechanical engineering/materials argument to leave them alone.

One of the things Mech Engineers learn somewhere back in machine design and strength of materials courses is that bolts almost always fail in tightening, and if they don't fail in tightening, then they almost never will fail in service. The reason is that once the bolt is brought up to proper torque, it is always in static tension after that, and when you release the torque wrench, the bolt actually turns back a tiny bit, which relaxes the torsion, so then you have only tension on the bolt (see my other discussion about how bolts do not see cyclic stress if they are properly designed and installed). ANd yes, we also learn that "bolts" are fastened with nuts, and when they are screwed into a machine part, they are technically called "machine screws," so let's not debate that fine point.

The reason our original bolts failed quickly is that a batch, or several batches, of them got hydrogen embrittled, which caused cracking under the head of the bolt. However, not all the batches were thus affected. So, if you have put substantial miles on the car (and it's now at least 9 years old), you almost certainly don't have the bad bolts. If you already put in or paid the labor to pull the half-axles off for some other reason, and it makes you feel better, replace the OEM bolts/plate with the Ford replacement or ARP parts. Otherwise, leave 'em alone. Don't go lookin' for trouble, or as someone else once put it, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
 
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PeteK

Nice to see a positive post not berating some poor soul looking for help. Maybe there should be a a stickie posted re: all things previously discussed that are forbidden to be brought up again. After all, there can't be any new info regarding a 9 year old post, could there?
 
The reason our original bolts failed quickly is that a batch, or several batches, of them got hydrogen embrittled, which caused cracking under the head of the bolt...not all the batches were thus affected...if you have put substantial miles on the car (and it's now at least 9 years old), you ALMOST certainly don't have the bad bolts. If you already put in or paid the labor to pull the half-axles off for some other reason, and it makes you feel better, replace the OEM bolts/plate with the Ford replacement or ARP parts. Otherwise, leave 'em alone. Don't go lookin' for trouble, or as someone else once put it, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

'Decision would seem to depend on how good '50/50' odds might look to any particular owner...and whether or not "Murphy" is known to spend / has spent any significant amout of time at said owner's house...

My vote (not that it matters) would be to replace the bolts regardless...thereby completely, absolutely eliminating every aspect of the issue once and for all.


Extremely Gutless Pockets :willy