Wall St. Journal dig at GT


Kayvan

GT Owner
Jul 13, 2006
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Todays WSJ does an obnoxious review of the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorino; which looks like a a lexus from the front [supposedly the designer was canned by Pinninfarina for presiding over the Japanization of the current lineup, esp. 612 Scagletti, and vette knock offflying buttress rear on the 599 (no-offense to my esteemed vette owners: Z06, blue devil and hopefully 72 Stingray for me)

Anyway this reporter calls the cars a soccer-mom ferrari and goes on to put together a useless table about the competitors.

Suffice to say, they could not bring themsleves to list the GT as a full competitor and instead stoop tosaying its shares its engine parts with Ford trucks; and takes a stab at Lambo for doing same with Audi.

Now, I must say WSJ is zero on my list of car knowledge with its usual Perfromance Anxiety column and with this has reached a new low.

She should stick to their usual reviews of mail-order duvets, pates, and knock off $200+ denim for wannabes w/droopy rears. :thumbsdow

All should flame and bash this nonsense
 
Yeah, I saw the article. Overall, just a simple review. The jab at the GT was in a table and didn't bother me much...wouldn't get too uptight about this. No one who buys exotic cars really cares much about what the WSJ says. Now, when it comes to financial matters....
 
I am a lifelong Ferrari liker and past owner. But IMHO the latest crop of Brand X cars are just plain ugly,and so I commismerate with fellow likers who feel the same way. Owning an exotic is a visual as well as visceral affair - or at least it oughta be.

Stefan's 360 is probably the last of the good looking road cars for a while. I think the 430 is entirely forgettable - it will not stand the test of time, such as the 328 or Dino or Daytona. To me the front end of the 599 looks identical to a Panoz! The Enzo does not turn my crank - I'd rather TT the GT! The Enzo replacement car, however, as shown in the August 2006 issues of Italian car mags - that may be damn good looking if it shows up looking like the concept car does now. Still, the GT will reign forever in the hearts and minds of this generation and those to follow.
 
Who cares, it's WSJ. I don't get my current events from the enquirer either...

The 599 is a monster. At least the euro version they keep testing. Fast as hell and looks like the performance benchmark in virtually all respects. Too bad it's just ugly as sin, and the U.S version won't have the nannies to make it as fast here. :frown When cars are as fast as they are right now, .1 here or a couple mph there are no big deal. But good lord, can someone hire someone who knows how to make a good looking car back at Maranello? 599...612...ugh...
 
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For me, the WSJ has been an island of sanity in a sea of left wing liberal madness for the last 30 years. But lately they have started to print some of the same liberal horse dung that appears in the mainstream press. Liberal socialism has failed every time it has been tried for the last 3000 years, but most of the isolated and ignorant still champion it. The wingnut that wrote that WSJ piece about the GT has never owned an exotic car and he probably never will.

Chip
 
This is what Carrol Shelby meant when he said "Investors and accountants shouldn't design cars" when he was talking about how the automotive industry had a few down years for performance cars.
 
How can you think the 430 is ugly if you like the 360? They look very similar to me! I think both are gorgeous!
 
ChipBeck said:
For me, the WSJ has been an island of sanity in a sea of left wing liberal madness for the last 30 years. But lately they have started to print some of the same liberal horse dung that appears in the mainstream press. Liberal socialism has failed every time it has been tried for the last 3000 years, but most of the isolated and ignorant still champion it. The wingnut that wrote that WSJ piece about the GT has never owned an exotic car and he probably never will.

Chip

He probably drives a Toyota and thinks he is driving an "American" car.
 
Guess I'm the odd man out on this one. Personally, I really like the looks of the 599 and, if I could actually get one within a reasonable amount of time would do so.

That said, however, nothing really compares to the GT. Took it out this evening for the first in a month or so. In addition to the looks and yells of approval, actually had a some tail me to get me to pull over and talk about the car. Maybe just one more ...
 
Big Carrot said:
How can you think the 430 is ugly if you like the 360? They look very similar to me! I think both are gorgeous!
Let me speak up, for having both in the garage..

The 430 can look good. Color makes the difference, as there is a 'flaw' on the back side. From the front it is nicely updated, better looking than less 'round' than the (by now slightly dated) 360 on the frontspoiler corners (apart from the Stradale, that is and remains drop dead beautiful). But the back has the issue that they copied the grille and lamps from the Enzo, but the grille is too narrow to look good. Unless you take the car in black (like Chris) where this totally disappears, it is difficult to appreciate aesthetically , it's a clear imperfection. Alternative is to cut wider the grill contour at the back from lamp to lamp as it is at the Enzo, or paint black the indented area around it to be able to reverse on sale.

We are currently studying this. It's a beautiful car, recommend the racing seats, they are just great and comfortable ! Copy if mine attached. :wink

Stefan
 
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Stefan, you nicely summed up the 'problem' with the rear. Whereas the 360 and most of the F line have historically had a great rear treatment, the 430 is step a backward, IMHO - the lights do look out of place. And the rear view is so important because that's the view seen most often!

For me, the exaggerated openings for the front radiators on the 430 are also a step backward. However, some tuners (e.g. Novitec) have altered the front fascia to make it better looking. The Novitec overall is a very nice improvement.

The GT, on the other hand, has no bad angles. A design masterpiece. I'm not even interested in a new Ferrari now.
 
Red Rocket said:
Stefan, you nicely summed up the 'problem' with the rear. Whereas the 360 and most of the F line have historically had a great rear treatment, the 430 is step a backward, IMHO - the lights do look out of place. And the rear view is so important because that's the view seen most often!

For me, the exaggerated openings for the front radiators on the 430 are also a step backward. However, some tuners (e.g. Novitec) have altered the front fascia to make it better looking. The Novitec overall is a very nice improvement.

The GT, on the other hand, has no bad angles. A design masterpiece. I'm not even interested in a new Ferrari now.
Rocket,

completely agree ! Infact before checking back here, I was just looking at the NOVITEC website !!!!!!!!
We must have very similar taste... That's why we also both went for the gorgeously designed GT I guess.. :wink