The Real Charlie Brown


RALPHIE

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Look carefully at the B-17 below and note how shot up it is - one engine dead, tail, horizontal stabilizer and nose shot up.. It was ready to fall out of the sky. (This is a painting done by an artist from the description of both pilots many years later.) Then realize that there is a German ME-109 fighter flying next to it. Now read the story below. I think you'll be surprised ...

Charlie Brown was a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 379th Bomber Group at Kimbolton , England . His B-17 was called 'Ye Old Pub' and was in a terrible state, having been hit by flak and fighters. The compass was damaged and they were flying deeper over enemy territory instead of heading home to Kimbolton.

After flying the B-17 over an enemy airfield, a German pilot named Franz Stigler was ordered to take off and shoot down the B-17. When he got near the B-17, he could not believe his eyes. In his words, he 'had never seen a plane in such a bad state'. The tail and rear section was severely damaged, and the tail gunner wounded. The top gunner was all over the top of the fuselage. The nose was smashed and there were holes everywhere.

Despite having ammunition, Franz flew to the side of the B-17 and looked at Charlie Brown, the pilot. Brown was scared and struggling to control his damaged and blood-stained plane.

Aware that they had no idea where they were going, Franz waved at Charlie to turn 180 degrees. Franz escorted and guided the stricken plane to, and slightly over, the North Sea towards England . He then saluted Charlie Brown and turned away, back to Europe . When Franz landed he told the CO that the plane had been shot down over the sea, and never told the truth to anybody. Charlie Brown and the remains of his crew told all at their briefing, but were ordered never to talk about it.

More than 40 years later, Charlie Brown wanted to find the Luftwaffe pilot who saved the crew.. After years of research, Franz was found. He had never talked about the incident, not even at post-war reunions.

They met in the USA at a 379th Bomber Group reunion, together with 25 people who are alive now - all because Franz never fired his guns that day.

When asked why he didn't shoot them down, Stigler later said, "I didn't have the heart to finish those brave men. I flew beside them for a long time. They were trying desperately to get home and I was going to let them do that. I could not have shot at them. It would have been the same as shooting at a man in a parachute."

This is a true story! http://www.snopes.com/military/charliebrown.asp

THIS WAS BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN THERE WAS HONOR IN BEING A WARRIOR .... THEY PROUDLY WORE THEIR COUNTRY'S UNIFORMS, AND THEY DIDN'T HIDE IN AMBUSH INSIDE A MOSQUE, OR BEHIND WOMEN AND CHILDREN, NOR DID THEY USE MENTALLY RETARDED WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS SUICIDE BOMBERS TO TARGET AND KILL INNOCENT CIVILIANS ....

HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED ....


Picture 1: Painting of B-17 & ME-109
Picture 2: ME-109 Pilot Franz Stigler
Picture 3: B- 17 Pilot Charlie Brown
Picture 4: (L-R) German Ace Franz Stigler, Artist Ernie Boyett, B-17 Pilot Charlie Brown




 
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BlackICE

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Wonderful story!
 
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Very Cool.
 

dbackg

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Thanks Ralphie.

:usa
 

GTJack

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Thanks Ralphie. Heartwarming for me. My father was shot down over Germany and spent 3 yrs in POW camp they had the Great Escape from.
 

CH53Driver

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Great story but sorry, I don't agree with this statement:

"THIS WAS BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN THERE WAS HONOR IN BEING A WARRIOR .... THEY PROUDLY WORE THEIR COUNTRY'S UNIFORMS, AND THEY DIDN'T HIDE IN AMBUSH INSIDE A MOSQUE, OR BEHIND WOMEN AND CHILDREN, NOR DID THEY USE MENTALLY RETARDED WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS SUICIDE BOMBERS TO TARGET AND KILL INNOCENT CIVILIANS ...."

There were mass atrocities committed on all the fronts back then by many of the sides involved. War hasn't changed nor will it but once in a while something like this does happen in the madness that is war.
 

twobjshelbys

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Great story but sorry, I don't agree with this statement:

"THIS WAS BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN THERE WAS HONOR IN BEING A WARRIOR .... THEY PROUDLY WORE THEIR COUNTRY'S UNIFORMS, AND THEY DIDN'T HIDE IN AMBUSH INSIDE A MOSQUE, OR BEHIND WOMEN AND CHILDREN, NOR DID THEY USE MENTALLY RETARDED WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS SUICIDE BOMBERS TO TARGET AND KILL INNOCENT CIVILIANS ...."

There were mass atrocities committed on all the fronts back then by many of the sides involved. War hasn't changed nor will it but once in a while something like this does happen in the madness that is war.

Hey CH53Driver! Good to see you here! Do you have a GT?

Anyway, on war... Every year at Christmas I am reminded of the WWI "Christmas Truce" during which pockets of British, French and German soldiers called it all off for a few hours, and even played soccer on the battle field. This (and the Charlie Brown story) remind us that wars are fought between nations, not men (or women).

Now back to our regularly scheduled non-political forum :)
 

FM99

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Wars are waged between nations but fought by individuals.
 

SteveA

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Thanks Ralphie. Heartwarming for me. My father was shot down over Germany and spent 3 yrs in POW camp they had the Great Escape from.

Your dad is a hero, I hope he is still with us and you can thank him for me for his service and sacrifice.