Teenage boys and Supercars


Joehand1

Tungsten GT Owner
Sep 20, 2007
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Hattiesburg, MS, USA
I wrote this article for the local paper. I didn't mention the GT because I didn't want to come across as tooting my own horn so to speak...


Teenage boys have life all figured out. Their filter of common sense and grasp of reality has yet to develop. The positive result of this is that they recognize things with beauty and brilliance without any thought of their negative sides. Their world then is another dimension, a world that those of us men in middle age only have a vague recollection.

Economic recession? Where is my I-Pod?

War in Iraq? Anyone seen my cell?

Presidential debate? Who’s left on Idol?

Do you really think they care about Angelina Jole’s role in world hunger or if Jessica Alba is a good actress? Of course not, teen boys pay attention to them for other reasons.

Their choice of cars shows the same trait.

What would they drive if given the choice of any car in the world?

Would it be a practical Volvo station wagon, a green Toyota Prius, or an economical Ford Fiesta? No, my guess is that a planet destroying Ferrari F-430 or a Dodge Viper SRT-10 fit the bill even though both are more expensive and complex than a Saturn 5 moon rocket and about as practical to own.

Nissan has recently placed a new entry into this land of make believe called the GTR. Every school-boy worth his salt knows that this is the Super-car for the 21st century. It is a limited edition all wheel drive sports car with a computer controlled suspension and drive train worthy of a Playstation 3. The track times of this car rival or beat almost any production car made at a price of only a small home (not a mansion like the million dollar Bugatti Veyron.)

This is not the first time Nissan (now a Mississippi company of sorts) has produced an exciting sports car that out performs cars many times its price. They first did it in 1971 with the first 240-Z. It too was an astonishing car. It was termed a “poor man’s Jag”, but unlike the British car, it actually worked. The biggest difference between the old Z and the GTR though is not the technology but the style of the cars. The old 240-Z was and is great looking and timeless, kind of like Marilyn Monroe. However the GTR, unlike the Italian supermodels… err I mean Italian supercars, just isn’t that pretty. Don’t get me wrong, it is attractive in an Uma Thurman kind of way but it looks ordinary. However, its out of this world performance gives it a free pass in the teenage Kingdom of Cool.

Of course the practicality of the GTR does leave something to be desired. I don’t think you really need a 480 horsepower twin turbo engine to go get a gallon of milk. That would be like forcing Paris Hilton to do your laundry. Even Nissan knows this is an exercise of fantasy and is even planning an electric car later this decade.

However, I don’t think you will be seeing any posters of any electric cars on the boys’ walls next to Angelina or Jessica any time soon. No, they will continue to dream of the Ferrari, the Viper or the GTR, things that make as much sense to them as Farrah Fawcett and the Porsche 917 made to me 35 years ago.

Oh and by the way, we had an energy crisis then too.
 
Yep, fast cars and hot (hopefully fast) women are the priorities, everything else is a distant 3rd.
 
However, I don’t think you will be seeing any posters of any electric cars on the boys’ walls next to Angelina or Jessica any time soon.

My boys do.

(Actually, no pictures of Angelina or Jessica, just cars)
 

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Great article. Men have an eye for beauty that starts at a very early age.
BTW, the 240Z was introduced in late 1969 with the first cars sold as 1970 models. IMHO one of the most beautiful automotive shapes especially in race trim. The GT-R may be a technological tour de force but I can't get past the looks.
 
My boys do.

(Actually, no pictures of Angelina or Jessica, just cars)





I'm actually playing with the idea of getting one of these darn "T" cars.
 
I would add cars sharpen reading skills.....

I pedalled my yellow banana seat bike to the library and read Motor Trend, R&T, C&D, Hot Rod cover to cover from age 8 on....including summers.
 
My boys do.

(Actually, no pictures of Angelina or Jessica, just cars)

Oops, I forgot about the lovely Telsa...
 
I'm actually playing with the idea of getting one of these darn "T" cars.


Well, after you have owned it for a year and pushed it in and out of your garage a few hundred times... give me a call and I'll buy it new from you. :lol


Cr@p! I just went to their site again ... the 2009 base price is now $109,000.00!!!! Didn't it start out at like $60K? For that money buy a Lotus and you have an extra $49k to buy gas for it and drive 306,000 miles in it with gas at $4.00 a gallon. Cool car but not that rational for a slower, heavier, and limited use version of the Elise.
 
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Well, after you have owned it for a year and pushed it in and out of your garage a few hundred times... give me a call and I'll buy it new from you. :lol


At a PREMIUM, of course ...since, after all, it was owned by my illustrious self. :cool :sleep:
 
At a PREMIUM, of course ...since, after all, it was owned by my illustrious self. :cool :sleep:

You should start your own tuner business .... or do you just consider yourself an automotive librarian?
 
You should start your own tuner business .... or do you just consider yourself an automotive librarian?

:tap::sleep::slap:box:
 
Well, after you have owned it for a year and pushed it in and out of your garage a few hundred times... give me a call and I'll buy it new from you. :lol


Cr@p! I just went to their site again ... the 2009 base price is now $109,000.00!!!! Didn't it start out at like $60K? For that money buy a Lotus and you have an extra $49k to buy gas for it and drive 306,000 miles in it with gas at $4.00 a gallon. Cool car but not that rational for a slower, heavier, and limited use version of the Elise.


I remember seeing them for 98K last year. Their Whitestar sedan is targeting the 60-80K range though. I'm on the list for summer of 2009. It's going to be a long 14 months.
 
Didn't it start out at like $60K?

i think you are thinking of the deposit.

For that money buy a Lotus and you have an extra $49k to buy gas for it and drive 306,000 miles in it with gas at $4.00 a gallon. Cool car but not that rational for a slower, heavier, and limited use version of the Elise.

depends on your definition of rational.

same argument could be made about vette vs fgt.
 
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depends on your definition of rational.

same argument could be made about vette vs fgt.

Yes except the vette and Fgt are totally different cars. The Tesla is an Elise that has been stretched and repowered.
 
i think you are thinking of the deposit.

Yes, the deposit on the roadster is 60K. That also gets you a test ride. I should be getting mine this summer in New York. If anyone is interested, I’ll post the experience.

Yes except the vette and Fgt are totally different cars. The Tesla is an Elise that has been stretched and repowered.

The roadster isn't an Elise any more than a Lamborghini is an Audi. It does share some of the same parts, but it is a significantly different car.

Here’s an article if you’re interested.

http://www.teslamotors.com/blog3/?p=74

A brief quote from the article,

"So you could say that the Tesla is similar to a Lotus Elise, except it has a totally different drivetrain , body panels, aluminum tub, rear sub-frame, brakes, ABS system, HVAC and rear suspension. The Tesla also neglects to carry over the gas tank, emissions equipment and exhaust. If you were to try to convert an Elise to a Tesla and started throwing away parts that aren’t carried over what you would basically be left with a windshield, dashboard (complete with airbags!), front wishbones and a removable soft top."

As far as performance goes, Tesla’s new transmission will get the car to 60 in under 4 seconds. I think that’s the same ballpark as an Elise, although it’s definitely a much more expensive 0-60. I’m sure Tesla’s massive battery pack will mean it will not be as nimble as the Elise, but how many cars can compare to an Elise’s maneuverability?

I’ll stop now. Sorry about hijacking the thread.
 
thanks for the info. and I stand corrected but I still look at the car as having Lotus DNA. I do think the car has merit and will be an automotive milestone car. But I am unsure of its actual functionality or economic sense in a "non-collector" minds eye. Thinking of it as an investment or museum car then absolutely but as a driver car I just don't think the cost makes it viable.

The reason that I say that is I know of a tech that has converted a beck 550 replica to an electric car that has less than 55k in the car in total. He's still monkeying around with a few things and he and another tech are planning on a hybrid 550 using the mechanicals out of a prius ... which in itself I find interesting. Are the cars (Tesla and Ebeck) similar .. not really when you look at the airbags, abs and top (one has them and the other does not) but I do think that the Tesla might be better priced in the 60-70 range. Hey if two hacks in a garage can do a turn key - minus for less money then it is a possibility with economies of scale and wholesale costing worked in.

Ok I'm rambling now ... now what was this thread originally? Oh yeah, so to who's kid do I need to send auto-porn to now? :biggrin
 
... If anyone is interested, I’ll post the experience.


PLEASE DO! :thumbsup :cheers
 
Ok I'm rambling now ... now what was this thread originally? Oh yeah, so to who's kid do I need to send auto-porn to now? :biggrin[/QUOTE]

How did this thread get off on the Telsa???:willy
 
How did this thread get off on the Telsa???:willy

Consider this area of the forum kind of like a conversation in a bar. It wanders, rambles and meanders ... and when a beautiful woman cruises by ... we all stop and stare. At the end of the night ........ well you can take it from there.