HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!


Jason Watt

Jason Watt

Had both, sold both
Mark II Lifetime
Oct 14, 2005
1,229
Copenhagen, Denmark
When I removed my floor panels to install my headers I was in for a NASTY surprice...

1. This spot is just below the cover for the oil pump cover. When I removed the cover it looked like the substance had come from the belt tight'ner (or what to call it). It is VERY thick, and its not oil from the engine. it's more like a grey substance that feels like grease. Has the wheel that holds the the belt tight got this sort of grease inside??
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2. Here is a picture of the location of the belt tight'ner (it's removed for inspection, and silly me didn't take a picture of the actual unit)
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NEXT PROBLEM!!!
I have a leak from the rear crank seal, and oil is comming out from between the engine and transmisssion and it's running all the way to the back of the transmission...
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What to do?? Take it 1000 miles back to the dealer in Germany who sold me the car, for them to inspect it??
 
I am no mechanic, but I think when engine oil and water are mixed, the result is a gray oily substance. so, all your problems may be the result of one oil leak. Not sure what else I can tell you.

Maybe with more pictures, someone more technical than me can help, or ask the engineers at the rally.
 
When pulling the oil filter during an oil change it’s inevitable that some oil will drip down so I suspect the oil around the belts is a result of this oil dripping down and around the front of the engine.

Another source of oil would from the compressor bearing but you would see this from the top so I doubt this is an issue for your vehicle.

The oil around the back of the engine (crank) I suspect is actually transaxle fluid that has leaked and dripped down toward the front near the union of the transaxle and block thus appearing to be a crank leak.
Installation of the FRPP transaxle cooler will fix this issue.
If you already have the FRPP transaxle cooler installed and can not find any leaks around the AN fittings then a small possibility exists that your engine (if an early 05) was one that needed the speedy sleeve around the rear crank. However from what I heard very few of these engines were produced.
FWIW, my rear engine and transaxle leaked prior to installation of the FRPP cooler just as described above.

As SuperB mentioned, oil that lays around for a while and mixes with water becomes lighter in color making a grey or chocolate color (a real mess). Typical off the shelf degreaser and a wash job will clean things up quickly.

Let us know how you make out.
 
I don't think that looks like grease. I think it is most likely engine oil that has mixed with dirt and grime and become thicker. The other possibility is gear oil although the location makes that a little unlikely.

Although only 1,000 miles, has the car ever had an oil change - perhaps by the dealer? If so, there a strong possibility that this is residual oil left over from when someone changed the oil filter cartridge. This can happen if they're not careful.

Some '05's were known to have a leak in the rear main seal. Also, I think it is much more likely that you are dealing with one problem and not two. (I hope.)

Did you booger up the pan (bottom right corner of first pic you posted)? If not you, then it looks like someone else has had the pan off before.
 
For the one part of your problem, it looks as you will have to replace the crank shaft seal! Unfortunately not a minimally invasive procedure. I have the same problem and also a friend of mine after 1800 and 4500 miles respectively! Will run this job under warranty. As you are 1 of 101 this should be not a problem for you!

See my post "First oil change" some time ago.

Desi
 
Supercharger oil

The oil in the supercharger is clear and very thin. Looks like sewing machine oil. I think all of the supercharger leaks have been at the top near the snout.

Don
 
Obviously the goo in the pans is residue form the people you have vaporized on the road. Are you sure your blondes didn't drop some hair goop in the compartment by accident? Hope this is just a breather leak.
 
Desi said:
For the one part of your problem, it looks as you will have to replace the crank shaft seal! Unfortunately not a minimally invasive procedure. I have the same problem and also a friend of mine after 1800 and 4500 miles respectively! Will run this job under warranty. As you are 1 of 101 this should be not a problem for you!

See my post "First oil change" some time ago.

Desi
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Desi,
Oh - so I'm not the only one... I'll call Swabengarage and speak to them.
Thanks for sharing...
 
SuperB said:
I am no mechanic, but I think when engine oil and water are mixed, the result is a gray oily substance. so, all your problems may be the result of one oil leak. Not sure what else I can tell you.

Maybe with more pictures, someone more technical than me can help, or ask the engineers at the rally.
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The substance is grey and thick like the grease you would use around the pistons in a brake caliper... I'm 100 percent sure that it's NOT engine oil mixed with what ever...

Not going to the rally... :frown
 
TrackDay said:
When pulling the oil filter during an oil change it’s inevitable that some oil will drip down so I suspect the oil around the belts is a result of this oil dripping down and around the front of the engine. The car is never serviced and was untouched before I removed the floor

Another source of oil would from the compressor bearing but you would see this from the top so I doubt this is an issue for your vehicle. Thats not the problem..

The oil around the back of the engine (crank) I suspect is actually transaxle fluid that has leaked and dripped down toward the front near the union of the transaxle and block thus appearing to be a crank leak. It is NOT trans fluid. It light brown and doesn't smell like gear oil. As other members have the crank seal issue, I'm quite sure this is also what I'm seeing.

Installation of the FRPP transaxle cooler will fix this issue.
If you already have the FRPP transaxle cooler installed and can not find any leaks around the AN fittings then a small possibility exists that your engine (if an early 05) was one that needed the speedy sleeve around the rear crank. However from what I heard very few of these engines were produced.
FWIW, my rear engine and transaxle leaked prior to installation of the FRPP cooler just as described above.

As SuperB mentioned, oil that lays around for a while and mixes with water becomes lighter in color making a grey or chocolate color (a real mess). Typical off the shelf degreaser and a wash job will clean things up quickly. The substance is much thicker that the café latte stuff you get when engine oil gets mixed with water.. And it's grey.

Let us know how you make out.
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Just keep those suggestions coming - Thanks
 
 
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I may know what it is?

The Crankshaft Damper on the GT is a fluid filled unit.

And its fluid is gray and thick sticky stuff. Do you also have a film (hard to clean off) on your rear glass near the front of the Engine?

Let me know?

Alex
 
Breather?

My car had leaked oil in the same place. It was the transaxle breather puking oil out of the open slot. The oil then slowly runs down the crankcase and accumulates in the belly pan. Hopefully this is your problem since it is the easiest to deal with. Jay
www.gtsaver.com

TrackDay said:
When pulling the oil filter during an oil change it’s inevitable that some oil will drip down so I suspect the oil around the belts is a result of this oil dripping down and around the front of the engine.

Another source of oil would from the compressor bearing but you would see this from the top so I doubt this is an issue for your vehicle.

The oil around the back of the engine (crank) I suspect is actually transaxle fluid that has leaked and dripped down toward the front near the union of the transaxle and block thus appearing to be a crank leak.


Installation of the FRPP transaxle cooler will fix this issue.
If you already have the FRPP transaxle cooler installed and can not find any leaks around the AN fittings then a small possibility exists that your engine (if an early 05) was one that needed the speedy sleeve around the rear crank. However from what I heard very few of these engines were produced.
FWIW, my rear engine and transaxle leaked prior to installation of the FRPP cooler just as described above.

As SuperB mentioned, oil that lays around for a while and mixes with water becomes lighter in color making a grey or chocolate color (a real mess). Typical off the shelf degreaser and a wash job will clean things up quickly.

Let us know how you make out.
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On my first GT (05) there was a zip tie that was holding a hose that ran across the front of the engine. I say "was" because when I took my aero-pan off I found it (along with some other nice things and fluids) in the pan. I spent about an hour trying to find the source of the leak to no avail. Then I cleaned the underside and started the car for 3-4 min and re-inspected. No leaks. After a few explicative’s I started the car again and this time ran it until it got to operating temperature. Once this happened fluid started gushing down the front of the engine (it was at this point that I figured out where that zip tie came from). There were two hoses that (due to the broken zip tie) were just barley riding along the belt on the front of the engine which cut a nice little whole in them. One was an oil line and the other a coolant line. This may be causing the same problem you are having. Also I did a visual inspection of the engine bay and noticed that my fuel injection lines (which run along side the frame rails on the pass side-US model?) were not properly installed in the plastic holders and were "rattling" around. :willy
 
MR2Race said:
The Crankshaft Damper on the GT is a fluid filled unit.

And its fluid is gray and thick sticky stuff. Do you also have a film (hard to clean off) on your rear glass near the front of the Engine?

Let me know?

Alex
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Alex,
That would be IT!!! I have exaclty what you desribe....
What to do about that???
 
Fluid Damper Leak?

If it is infact the crank Damper is leaking. It will need to be replaced.

And would be under waranty. It can be replaced in the car, I have done it.

I have never seen one leak. Just the Prototype that I drilled a hole in to mount a mag sensor set on. Before I discovered it was a fluid damper.
 
I use a fluiddamper on my '23 Ford roadster. I think that it is filled with silicone (not oil) of a very specific viscosity and is far superior to older methods. I hope that this is true because fluiddampers do an excellent job of quenching nasty crankshaft harmonics that get generated during normal engine operation. This results in longer engine life and slightly more HP.

Nice troubleshooting guys!

Jay
www.gtsaver.com
 
MR2Race said:
Just the Prototype that I drilled a hole in to mount a mag sensor set on.
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:bored Yes Sir!!! Been there done that!! I've sent you a PM
 
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