Example of the value of Launch Control


The Gt is just grand to me.
I prefer my race cars with No traction control as well
"Theres no substitute for talent " JUST TRACTION CONTROL !!
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I thought it interesting to get a perspective from the F-car guys. Here's a current quote from the other side of the fence.

2000YELLOW360 said:
I hear it all the time. However, since I got the 430, I've been thinking about it. If you don't let the tires get warm, and you set the traction control on sport, full throttle in the 1st two gears is just another way to smoke your tires. You don't even want to think about full throttle when turning (or exiting from a true) at low speeds even when the tires are warmed up. I was easily able to slide the 348s, the 355 when driving hard. The 360 was a bit twitchy, and now the 430 is probably well beyond my competency when it comes to going really fast. Terrible to say, but true. I can work the Mondial t (It's basically a 348, with a little extra weight) decently, but frankly the 430 is a bit scary.

Terrible to say, but I think that these cars are beyond most of us. Way beyond. Hopefully, the next version will have more electronic aids, so that we can drive them better. Interesting to note that the MotoGP bikes all have electronic aids, and that makes them quite a bit easier to ride. Rumor is that the next version of the street 1000s, and 600s will have a version of that electronic control for consumer consumption.

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"Terrible to say, but I think that these cars are beyond most of us. Way beyond."


Pbly very true for most of us on this forum too. :willy
 
The most Porsche-like experience is my 1973RS 2.7 (very close clone). The 1987 wide-body with the G50 box is the bees knees! :thumbsup. But nothing beats the Ford GT for class, presence and "feel".


I agree totally, my 87 911 is primitive, no power steering or even antilock brakes, but boy you feel connected to the road, I still love it.

You don't have to go 180 mph to have fun in this car.
 
This thread was never intended to draw any comparison between the GT-R and Ford GT, because there isn't any IMO; however, it is remarkable that a reportedly stock 3800+ pound car with around 470 HP can reach 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, although once it's launched, it performs like many other high tech 470 HP cars. I hope to never be tempted to buy any Japanese import based upon performance and thankfully the styling to date doesn't ring any bells for me either.
 
ENZO BTR said:
Ten years ago I had a modified Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo that could pull zero-to-60 in 5.0 seconds without a thought (and that car at least had three pedals in the footwell...).
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You were a smart guy back then.
 
Kirby Vieira said:
This thread was never intended to draw any comparison between the GT-R and Ford GT, because there isn't any IMO; however, it is remarkable that a reportedly stock 3800+ pound car with around 470 HP can reach 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, although once it's launched, it performs like many other high tech 470 HP cars. I hope to never be tempted to buy any Japanese import based upon performance and thankfully the styling to date doesn't ring any bells for me either.
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I agree with you Kirby buy our own stuff and take care of our home land first.

It is neat to see traction control numbers as they set a bench mark for drivers who want to drag race. I have spent on & off about 35 years racing and mostly drag racing. Never acheived Eddie Hills fame of Top Fuel Champ for me it was Alky Dragster, but if we did not have someone tuning our clutches (traction control) we would all look pretty silly turning 9 second passes with 4 to 6 second runs.

I doubt I will ever take the GT to the track as the clutch work required to launch her will just eat her alive very quickly. Glad the GT doesn't have TC as it would be just one more gadget to muck things up.
 
Empty Pockets said:
"Terrible to say, but I think that these cars are beyond most of us. Way beyond."


Pbly very true for most of us on this forum too. :willy
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Quite so.

I think the Ferrari writer was being very honest. The Ford GT in the wrong hands could be lethal - my hands are very gentle and I drive conservatively when tracking it. It's a deceptive car - we all know that it builds up huge speeds and those who've raced also know that you lose any point of reference when on the track. No idea of real speed - almost until it's too late! :eek

I've posted before that I don't think the GT is the world's greatest handling car - it's good, but it's not Porsche good (for example). But it is a great compromise between track and road and probably one of the best for a spirited squirt on decent roads. :biggrin
 
The GT is too much car for me right now for sure... I am not close to its limits... yet.

Also its limits cannot be approached on a public road lest risking a lots of people's lives.

But I am getting better on the track, and the thought that is all me and not some sort of electronic genius behind my improving lap times gives me great satisfaction.

As per handling the GT is extremely neutral with a tendency to understeer. Smoothness will pay a huge divident in terms of lap times.

And yes... you don't realize how quick you are going until people tell you in the pit lane that you were really hauling azz...
 
No question the FGT's capabilities are far beyond my limited abilities; however, I have to tell you that I can hardly wait until I either TT or super Whipple it (so, Daniel, when might we hear?). Despite having pullied, exhausted, throttle bodied and all other kind of 'stuffed' to it, I'd sure like more. Know that I'm hardly unique in this insatiable quest for more amongst this illustrious group.
 
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Welcome Dustin and many of us are on the edge of our seat!
 
AlohaGT said:
No question the FGT's capabilities are far beyond my limited abilities; however, I have to tell you that I can hardly wait until I either TT or super Whipple it (so, Daniel, when might we hear?). Despite having pullied, exhausted, throttle bodied and all other kind of 'stuffed' to it, I'd sure like more. Know that I'm hardly unique in this insatiable quest for more amongst this illustrious group.
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This phenomenon is commonly referred to as "Boost Burn Out" More is never enough for very long! :banana
 
Then, I'm continually suffering from Boost Burn Out. Recently had my RENNtech worked on again and it's now constantly overriding the traction control. Looking forward to pitting it against the FGT just to see how long the Heritage can be kept in sight.
 
911teo said:
Smoothness will pay a huge divident in terms of lap times.
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'Twas ever thus. Seeing a good driver, particularly in a classic car, rocket around a track with an almost serene smoothness, is one of lifes rare pleasures! The car looks 'loose' somehow.

I remember getting the first corner after Mulsanne horribly wrong in my GT going around Le Mans - driver error completely. Pretty much full on the brakes halfway through the corner. :ack Dreadful, hiddeous driving - but when you get it right, the correct speed in, kissing the apex, smoothing the power on - wonderful!

The GT is rewarding to drive quickly given the lack of electronic aids - so it is a modern classic somehow.
 
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