To Collect another GT ?


Kayvan

Kayvan

GT Owner
Jul 13, 2006
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So....with the S&P up 40% in last 18mos....I'm considering locking in some gains & promptly blowing them on another ride:

My wants are an odd-ball mix of cars I always wanted (concours):

-'85 Ferrari 308 GTSi QV ($50K)
-'70 Corvette 454 ($50k)
-'70 Pantera ($50K)
-'15 Viper ($100K)

OR

GT heritage
Lambo Hurracan

My recent revaluation is I prefer flawless super-cars like the GT has been for 8 years v. the charm / character of classic cars (from exhaust fumes, squeaks, rattles, restoration masochism).

I'm more into a nice car day/weekend v. I chased down every issue in this car ?!?

So....is variety better OR Lambo OR Heritage best ?
 
If you don't mind taking a hit via depreciation and required dealer warranty/service co$t$, I'd go with the Huracán. (Thanks, jr.! )

If it weren't for the 'unpleasantries' mentioned above, AND the fact I'm just too cheap to drop a qtr mil + on a car in the 1st place, I'd own one in a heartbeat. 'Love the looks of the darned things...
 
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The Vette will nickel and dime you as long as you own it (all three of mine did, but I was cool with that, it's a Vette and you can fix it with a hammer !)
F-GTS, better know a quality and a reasonable mechanic.
Viper: Dodge made 3 mistakes, if you can live with that go for it (1. bHP too low, 2. looks like the last one to Grandma, 3. 707bhp cat from hell Challenger)
Pantera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd2Unce43wI
Heritage: Find one under $400K and go for it
Lambo: Cool one but I suspect it'll be produced just like the Gallardo, but who cares, the car looks good !
 
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Here you go EP: Huracán
 
Wow, so modern Lambos still require the dealers service / warranty regimen?

Thought the Audi engineering helped; never owned a Gallardo, so not up to date...
 
Audi helped:Ergonomics and quality. Still on the high side on maint. cost, it will set you back about $1k-$1.5K (basic service/fluid changes), but the car is about $1/4 mil so the service cost is negligible. Also, clutch wears less than 6mm and you're going to need a new one, so Audi helped but at the end of the day it's still a Bull :biggrin
 
Guess the Lambo "glass clutch" stereotype lives...
 
I'd consider the 2015 Z06 as that'll be a monster.

Huracan I'm not too sure. The ferrari on the other will be a car that will increase in value the comming year.
 
Pantera.
 
Thomas Wolfe said you can't go home again. That '70 454 will seem positively ANCIENT, even compared to the Pantera. You'll need a current ignition just to enjoy the thing, and there was no solid lifter hi po version of the '70, so I believe you're stuck with a Rochester Q-Jet and all of its foibles.
Having owned a pretty nice '73 Pantera, I'm biased and would probably tell you to go that route, especially if you could find a real 1974 GTS. Others on this forum have elaborated on the +/- of Panteradom, but I think they're finally getting some of the respect they are due, (especially after being the ugly, red headed step child of performance cars since inception). But comparing driving characteristics of a 1970-72 (say) LT/1 & a comparable era Pantera will be night (outdated) to day (ahead of its time). The big block would only be worse.
Additionally, every time I revisit the 1980s era 308, 328, Quattrovalvos (sp?), I'm stunned at what relative dogs that era of F cars were (sorry aficionados). The Pantera is a beast compared to the F cars, and just as livable when the bugs are worked out (maybe more so, especially when $$ is factored in).
The Viper? A lotta car for the dough. A hammer instead of a scalpel, no?
The Lambo Hurracan? Why not just by a few year old Balboni, especially if you could find one with a manual. I doubt you'd lose $$ on that one, even if you drove it some.
The Heritage? It just stuns me when people talk about $400,000 GTs.
Just my (inflation adjusted) $.02
Good luck with your search.
 
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I’ve had a 308 GTS (QV) for about 20 years now. They look great, sound great (especially w/o cats).

Its beginning to nickel and dime me to death.. Nothing horrible – just reliability is starting to suffer.

The cooling system was marginal 20 years ago – now there is no way you could survive a traffic jam on a warm day.
Performance by todays standards is (at best) unremarkable.

Still – it’s a fun car!
 
I imagine there is a bias towards the Ford powered Pantera on this forum, but think everyone has been spot on.
Panteras have been appreciating quite a bit recently. You're probably looking at closer to $70k for a nice one.
http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vc=1330266
Most people consider the '71 and '72 Pre-L versions the more desirable ones.
 
BtwoG said:
I imagine there is a bias towards the Ford powered Pantera on this forum, but think everyone has been spot on.
Panteras have been appreciating quite a bit recently. You're probably looking at closer to $70k for a nice one.
http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vc=1330266
Most people consider the '71 and '72 Pre-L versions the more desirable ones.
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I've had my 73 Pantera L for nearly 30 years. Last year, when I told a local exotic dealer I know and trust that I was getting an FGT, he told me (knowing I have a Pantera and understand the mark)..."You can't go wrong with a GT BUT take the GT money and buy as many good Panteras as you can!"...probably 5-6 at that time.
I did NOT listen to him as I am a car enthusiast and not as interested in Return on Investment (at least not with cars...I have a BMW 850i :-( ).
Anyway, a year later, all of a sudden the (ignored for 25 years) Pantera is on the cover of Hemmings and then the Ring Bros (SEMA), and Jay Leno gets one (an L model)...another $ opportunity lost...I still could not be happier with my decision!
 
Kayvan said:
So....with the S&P up 40% in last 18mos....I'm considering locking in some gains & promptly blowing them on another ride:

My wants are an odd-ball mix of cars I always wanted (concours):

-'85 Ferrari 308 GTSi QV ($50K)
-'70 Corvette 454 ($50k)
-'70 Pantera ($50K)
-'15 Viper ($100K)

OR

GT heritage
Lambo Hurracan

My recent revaluation is I prefer flawless super-cars like the GT has been for 8 years v. the charm / character of classic cars (from exhaust fumes, squeaks, rattles, restoration masochism).

I'm more into a nice car day/weekend v. I chased down every issue in this car ?!?

So....is variety better OR Lambo OR Heritage best ?
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I'd go for a Hurracan ordered exactly the way you like it. As for some of the others…..sometimes the idea of owning one is more interesting than actually owning and driving one. I'd also seriously consider a 599…they are great cars and seem like a bargain.
 
My two cents says locking in gains=taking a profit. Decide whether you want a car for an investment (read buy low) or a car to drive (read buy high). personally, I sell off the stocks and buy the 2015 Z06 and enjoy driving the heck out of a car day in and day out. To find a car as an investment is a tough find. And if you do...you don't drive it. Good luck though on whatever way you go.
 
So....after reviewing comments and some soul searching

-No on Vette, Pantera, & 308; you cant go home again. Not going to enjoy classics purgatory, busted Sats/Suns nursing them at "experts"
-GT...$300K all in with sales tax, transport, service, etc; somehow takes bloom off GT honeymoon to reality
-Hurracan: high maintenance; wait for -$100K to be knocked off in 3-5yrs

$300K can let you enjoy a significant amount of wine, women & song v. puttering around in a hangar tending such a flock.


Oddly, thinking more about a M-B SLS AMG

With them trending towards $100K, transmission software update via SLS GT Final, and bank-vault AMG quality; its a pretty hard package to resist.

The Gullwing doors, M-B, and AMG engine are just iconic.
 
Kayvan said:
$300K can let you enjoy a significant amount of wine, women & song v. puttering around in a hangar tending such a flock.
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You seem to have set your priorities correctly. :biggrin

Why even consider another depreciating asset?
 
BlackICE said:
You seem to have set your priorities correctly. :biggrin

Why even consider another depreciating asset?
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One's a "depreciating" asset you can enjoy that doesn't demand more than a little maintenance, the other is a blood-sucking asset, that demands lots of maintenance, for a few moments of pleasure. Choose your poison!!!
 
RPM217 said:
One's a "depreciating" asset you can enjoy that doesn't demand more than a little maintenance, the other is a blood-sucking asset, that demands lots of maintenance, for a few moments of pleasure. Choose your poison!!!
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Usually both are depreciating assets, as for a few moments of pleasure, some don't even drive their FGT (EP). However one has some residual resale valve, the other one doesn't.
 
SLS has huge appeal.

I spent most of my money on hookers and blow. I wasted the rest of it.

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