Takata airbag recall

[maxemus]

Sawgrass Ford can get the inflators in 7 days. There were 3 cars ahead of me. I will send you the name of the service manager via pm.

Thanks

 

[fjpikul]

No letter here for original owner in steamy St. Louis.

 

[Kayvan]

NHTSA is requiring Takata make the recall nationwide by tues or face $7K fine per unit

Takata replied in senate testimony it needs 2yrs to produce parts for 100% recall

100% recall or $7K * 1-2 million cars = bankruptcy

Japanese insurers or govt will likely bail them out to prevent

 

[twobjshelbys]

NHTSA is requiring Takata make the recall nationwide by tues or face $7K fine per unit

Takata replied in senate testimony it needs 2yrs to produce parts for 100% recall

100% recall or $7K * 1-2 million cars = bankruptcy

Japanese insurers or govt will likely bail them out to prevent

It'll be bankruptcy anyway since it is most likely their production will be diverted to non-revenue-producing replacements for that same amount of time.

 

[junior]

Money ? NHSTA is fixing this by leveraging money from these clowns ? What about the people that lost their lives ?

 

[Kayvan]

We have become a regulation-by-fine nation.

The famed Pinto "cost-per-death" is the math of all desisions.

Every one from Justice Dept, to Va, to SEC to DOT has adopted the FEMA playbook of Fail your way to the top, fine your way to bottom.

Not until we vote this clown out of Oval office and all his "aides, aide-de-camps, aide-by-powerpoint" clowns will we go back to executing.

Not since Carter has Malaise been the motto.

 

[junior]

Sad state of affairs indeed.

 

[Kayvan]

Having said that, U.S. Capitalism will always be the best.

Recently in EU, I have to agree with the Pope (first time!) who said EU "is elderly, haggard, a grandmother no longer fertile or vibrant"

Man even in a money capital like ZUrich...you can tell from the stores, to service, to business, to how young people are viewed that EU is still in another century.

They really need to lose their baggage and embrace capitalism.

Their classist, ossified, feudal system is still in place.

 

[2112]

Their classist, ossified, feudal system is still in place.

Their welfare state masks that fact.

 

[TACHY]

Was told last week (after calling Ford in Detroit) that my car "meets the criteria" to have airbags replaced, and although I haven't received recall notice yet, I should have the dealer call "their hotline" and Ford would go ahead and authorize them to perform the service. After several days, and while having my 2007 Mustang bag replaced, dealer then tells me that GTs built after January 2006 have a different airbag and doesn't need replacement. Anyone heard of this?

 

[junior]

The airbag is not the issue, defective inflators and propellants devices are. According to the list from NHTSA (not up to date) all 2005-2006 Ford GT are effected, please see list below:

http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Pr...ective-airbags-urged-to-take-immediate-action

Acura: 2002–2003 CL and TL; 2003–2006 MDX; 2005 RL

BMW (627,615): 2000–2005 3-series sedan and wagon; 2000–2006 3-series coupe and convertible; 2001–2006 M3 coupe and convertible

Chrysler (371,309, including Dodge): 2005–2008 Chrysler 300; 2007–2008 Aspen

Dodge/Ram (371,309, including Chrysler): 2003–2008 Dodge Ram 1500; 2005–2008 Ram 2500, Dakota, and Durango; 2006–2008 Ram 3500 and 4500; 2008 Ram 5500

Ford (58,669): 2004 Ranger; 2005–2006 GT; 2005–2007 Mustang

Honda (5,051,364, including Acura): 2001–2007 Accord; 2001–2005 Civic; 2002–2006 CR-V; 2002–2004 Odyssey; 2003–2011 Element; 2003–2007 Pilot; 2006 Ridgeline

Infiniti: 2001–2004 Infiniti I30/I35; 2002–2003 Infiniti QX4; 2003–2005 Infiniti FX35/FX45; 2006 Infiniti M35/M45

Lexus: 2002–2005 SC430

Mazda (64,872): 2003–2007 Mazda 6; 2006–2007 Mazdaspeed 6; 2004–2008 Mazda RX-8; 2004–2005 MPV; 2004 B-series

Mitsubishi (11,985): 2004–2005 Lancer; 2006–2007 Raider

Nissan (717,364, including Infiniti): 2001–2003 Maxima; 2001–2004 Pathfinder; 2002–2006 Nissan Sentra

Pontiac: 2003–2005 Vibe

Saab: 2005 9-2X

Subaru (17,516): 2003–2005 Baja, Legacy, Outback; 2004–2005 Impreza, Impreza WRX, Impreza WRX STI

Toyota (877,000, including Lexus and Pontiac Vibe): 2002–2005 Toyota Corolla and Sequoia; 2003–2005 Matrix, Tundra

 

[Kingman]

.......dealer then tells me that GTs built after January 2006 have a different airbag and doesn't need replacement. Anyone heard of this?

Aaaaaaaaah, so the lying has found its way down to the dealership level. Find out who your 'area manager' is and call on them, otherwise you'll continue to get this BS.

 

[twobjshelbys]

Aaaaaaaaah, so the lying has found its way down to the dealership level. Find out who your 'area manager' is and call on them, otherwise you'll continue to get this BS.

Mine was built in Jan 06. I will just wait for the letter from Ford

 

[K-P Garage]

I have a very good dealership here and a top tech as well. Service and parts managers great. That being said, there is and always has been an enormous gulf between the information and it's transmittal between fomoco and the dealers about the Ford GT. To top that off there are so few of these cars in comparison to the total number of cars they deal with that is very easy to get lost in translation. The standing joke at the dealership is that I seem to know about it before they do. That's not because I have any great source of inside info, it's because like many of you, I read alot about cars and particularly the ones I have. This forum also provides useful info.. I have 19 Fords, 1 Aston Martin, 1 VW, 2 Volvos, 1 Honda and 2 Willys Jeeps. The Honda and two Fords got the airbag letter thus far. One of the two Ford GTs got letter and has been fixed. The second GT was ordered by me here and has lived everyday in Florida since it came off the line in march 2006. Still no letter on it. The dealership here is not the problem at all. Once I got letter on red car it was fixed promptly (see my posts above). This problem with takata is, as my son would say, "ginormous". I expect more letters on everything except the old stuff and maybe the volvos. I'm told by Volvo that they use no takata airbags. Seems like everybody else does.

 

[Art138]

I took mine to one of the largest Ford dealers here in South Florida yesterday. They had already done 4 GTs to include the owners Red/white striped car. It took about four hours to get mine back; the service manager indicated he is not aware of any shortages of inflators; the mid-steering wheel emblem is not changed. For those of you concerned about Emblem blemishes, Shelby does a superb job of restoring them.

 

[anya]

Relative Humidity is a function of temperature. While the RH here in the mountains can be quite high (right now it's 89%), the moisture level feels to be quite low, as the temperature is 28° F (Dew Point = 100% RH is 25°). In fact, at this level, it feels very dry outside, because the body's temperature of 98.6° F is so much higher, and thus no moisture can collect on it. When it's snowing, it's 100% RH, but the actual amount of water vapor in the air is actually quite small. Yet, condensation will occur at the dew point, no matter what the temperature if the surface is at the same temperature as the air, which will lead to corrosion of unprotected or susceptible surfaces. And the corrosion rate will also dependent on the actual level of oxygen (the partial pressure, not the percentage), which is altitude dependent.

The actual corrosion of an ordnance casing depends on the history of that particular device, starting from its point of manufacture - not the location that the vehicle happens to reside in. Furthermore, once the corrosion chemical reaction begins, it will continue, at lower levels of the amount of water vapor in the air to which it is exposed.

Today's weather, by the way-
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Ralphie This is confusing!! Yeaterday we had 1.5" of rain and 55f today (Saturday) it is 28 and clear!

Jim

 

[HiloDave]

Relative Humidity is a function of temperature. While the RH here in the mountains can be quite high (right now it's 89%), the moisture level feels to be quite low, as the temperature is 28° F (Dew Point = 100% RH is 25°). In fact, at this level, it feels very dry outside, because the body's temperature of 98.6° F is so much higher, and thus no moisture can collect on it. When it's snowing, it's 100% RH, but the actual amount of water vapor in the air is actually quite small. Yet, condensation will occur at the dew point, no matter what the temperature if the surface is at the same temperature as the air, which will lead to corrosion of unprotected or susceptible surfaces. And the corrosion rate will also dependent on the actual level of oxygen (the partial pressure, not the percentage), which is altitude dependent.

The actual corrosion of an ordnance casing depends on the history of that particular device, starting from its point of manufacture - not the location that the vehicle happens to reside in. Furthermore, once the corrosion chemical reaction begins, it will continue, at lower levels of the amount of water vapor in the air to which it is exposed.

Well, duh. Everybody knows that!

 

[standj]

Dealership lack of knowledge about the recall isn't limited to the GT, my 2006 Mustang is part of the recall and I was told that until your airbag light comes on nothing needs to be done. WTF ?????????????????

John

 

[jcthorne]

Takata has agreed to extend the recall nationwide. Now 14 million vehicles effected....this will take SOME time.

 

[TO AWSUM]

Just had both of my inflators replaced. Took the local Ford dealer a few weeks to get the parts and 45 minutes to install both inflators.