Start-up Procedure


Pat Milliken Ford

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Talked to Multimatic today about a few things and what they recommend for start up is to first press the start button WITHOUT your foot on the brake. That puts it into accessory mode and boots up all the computers, hydraulics,.. Then once that is done put your foot on the brake and press the button again.

Just thought i would pass that on!
 

CJ428

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Sounds like it would make a smoother transition for the computer
 

Cobrar

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Good idea! Sounds like there are some serious electrical drain/loads that would otherwise try to compete with the starter.

They (MultiMatic) probably also intended to offer that waiting a few seconds in the accessory mode prior to physical starter engagement cycle will help to ensure those systems will all have the chance to fully boot-up. (Apollo 13)
 
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Pat Milliken Ford

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This definitely isn't a requirement. Really it just comes down to if you get in the car and just put your foot on the brake and press the start button (which is totally ok), make sure you wait a few seconds before you throw it drive. We as a culture always seem to be in a hurry (well at least me)! You will hear everything boot up and know when it is good to go!
 

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owners manual pages 87-88.
1--it shows an 'on' position ....."without brake depressed press and release start stop button once.- all electrical circuits become operational"
2--Then to start , It says to "depress and hold the brake pedal, and press the engine stop-start button."
NO WHERE does it say to do step 1 and then do step 2 in any type of sequence. I wish they would have told us at delivery.
((This may be the cause of several no Starts (like Stormcats car in Utah ??))
I will start using this procedure from now on...
andy (ajb)
 

nota4re

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"Keyless go" is pretty much standardized across the automotive industry and it works exactly as described in the owners manual quote Andy provided above. There should be no practical reason where you have to separate this into two steps for start-up. In modern cars the computers will "wake" from either a remotely activated door unlock or from physically opening the door. Ford has this same system implemented across virtually ALL of their models and there should be nothing specific to the GT requiring a different process. Do as you please but I think the two-step recommendation is baloney.
 

Cobrar

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So your considered opinion on initializing gauges in the 05/06 is that it has no value?
 

nota4re

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So your considered opinion on initializing gauges in the 05/06 is that it has no value?

Perhaps a good question, but really apples and oranges here. In the case of the 05-06 cars, there is a known problem (although not a known cause) of the abnormally high number of gauge failures. What we also know is that there is a negotiation step between the Gauge Control Module and the gauges at key-on and that this process is not very tolerant of low system voltages. Combine this with the fact than many GTs are driven infrequently and there is no CONFIRMED cause of the gauge failures, it would seem prudent to allow the gauges to initialize before the current pull of the starter operation. Clearly, this is a work-around at best... and there's simply no real proof that the "failure to initialize properly" phenomena has any relation to gauge failure problem. In fact, increasingly I think we see evidence that they are not related. An increasing number of owners are reporting a "gauge stickiness" issue prior to complete failure. This suggests that early theories about corrosion of the fine movement components - perhaps due to improper treatment, may be at the root.

Alas, let's come back the the NFGT. As mentioned previously, there are hundreds of thousands of modern vehicles on the road with this "keyless go" ignition system - all of them working virtually the same way. Press the start button without the brake depressed and the vehicle enters accessory mode. Press the start button with foot on the brake and the vehicle goes immediately from accessory on to start mode.

A few more facts;

1. Although the NFGT does employ a lot of computers and associated software, it is not unique in this regard and there is undoubtedly vehicles with even more lines of code - probably even in Ford's line-up. (Consider that the GT does not have software-intensive features like adaptive cruise control, lane departure warning and correction, etc.)

2. Modern ECU's don't come out of a sleep-state only at key-on. The OEM has the option of using multiple other triggering events to render ECU's on PRIOR to an operator press of the start button. These events include remote unlocking, proximity sense of the key, driver's door opening, etc. Ford has a LOT of experience across their line-up to determine who/when functions need to be woken up.

3. As testament to the pervasiveness of the keyless-go systems, my '14 Ram EcoDiesel employs this same system. At cold start-ups, there is a definite delay between depressing the START button and engine fire up. In my case, it is the detection of the temperature and the need to briefly supply voltage to the glow plugs. At warm-start there is virtually no delay. The point is that Ford also has the option of placing a delay between the command to start and the actual start itself - IF it was needed.
 
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AJB

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Thanks, this info is all appreciated. I learn something new everytime I log onto the Forum.!
I do, and will continue to allow my gages to intialize on my 2006 GT prior to starting. It is now a habit.
Thanks!
Andy (ajb)