- Jul 13, 2006
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Ford GT40 in backyard
- Thread starter Kayvan
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Chris A.
GT #32
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
AlohaGT
GT Owner
steved57
GT Owner
RADGT
GT Owner
Kayvan,
Nice story. I am not too far away. Lets do a cars and coffee at his shop if he is interested.
Stu
Nice story. I am not too far away. Lets do a cars and coffee at his shop if he is interested.
Stu
Fast Freddy
GPS'D 225 MPH
Howard
GT Owner
GTNJ
GT Owner
SteveA
GT Owner/B.O.D
I wonder if that is Dan Gurneys and Jerry Grants Le Mans car. If not for a late blown head gasket Ford would have gone 1,2,3&4 as that car was comfortably in the lead. Great post!
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cobraownr
GT Owner
The Mk II GT40 that Motor Classic has is chassis XGT-3. It was a team spare in 1966 and was never raced in period. It got a fair bit of use in vintage races and exhibitions before coming to Motor Classic a good few years ago. At the peak of the market, the asking price was around $3 million or a bit north of that.
Supercharged
GT Owner
Car & Coffee,
Count me in, and I will see if any of the other northern boys want to come out of the hills and join you city boys. :cheers
Count me in, and I will see if any of the other northern boys want to come out of the hills and join you city boys. :cheers
The 1966 Gurney/Grant GT40 Le Mans entry was chassis number P/1047 and was a Shelby American prepared Mark II in red with white stripes. It wore the number "3" in its roundels, and led the race for much of the 1st 17 hours. In 1967, it was rebuilt to Mark IIB specifications by Holman-Moody and wore number "5" - finished in gold with white stripes and driven by Gardner/McClusky, and which crashed in the late night all-Ford shunt with Andretti/Bianchi (J-7) and Schlesser/Ligier (P/1015). At some point in time, the ID plate from P/1047 was put onto P/1031 in order to comply with the chassis number that had been entered in the next race, at Rheims. Since that time, P/1031 has been known as "P/1047" and has been referred to by that number since the original P/1047 chassis was destroyed in the wreck at Le Mans. Thus goes the controversy re P/1047 - yet it was destroyed at the 1967 Le Mans race except for its ID plate.
Thus, the Gurney/Grant 1966 Le Mans car no longer exists.
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- Jul 13, 2006
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OK, we got 4 so far...if we can get to 10-12 (even if we have to use filler Ferrari guys), then I'll broach the subject with him.
I know there are 3 other GTs in Scarsdale alone. I'll stalk them this Sat.
I'll probably stop by agin this weekend to show him the GT.
I know there are 3 other GTs in Scarsdale alone. I'll stalk them this Sat.
I'll probably stop by agin this weekend to show him the GT.
cobraownr
GT Owner
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but have to respectfully disagree with Ralphie regarding the fate of Mk II GT40 No. 1047. To the best of my knowledge, it was not destroyed by the 1967 Le Mans crash. As late as 2007, I exchanged e-mail messages about it with GT40 historian Ronnie Spain, spoke with Ronnie about it when he stayed with me, and was shown photos that he took of the car when he visited it in Japan in 2004. In 2007, 1047 was in the Finish Line shop in Nevada for some work. Now, new information does seem to surface from time to time about the identities of the much-raced Mk II GT40s, so maybe something has come up recently that sheds a different light on 1047, but at least as of 2007, the original 1047 seemed to still be with us.
Also, 1031 is now called "1031/1047" by its owners, the Collier Museum. See the discussion of this car at <www.racingicons.com>.
For some reason, Mr. Spain (in his book entitled "GT40 - An Individual History and Race Record", a book that I admire very much) seems to think the car driven by Ronnie Bucknam/Paul Hawkins as entrant number 57 was P/1047 (Light Blue/Black Stripes), a Mark IIB entered by SAI, and that the car driven by Frank Gardner and Roger McCluskey as entrant number 5, a Holman & Moody entered Mark IIB, was P/1031 (Gold/White Stripes). (ref. page 99)
He states (ref. page 230) that P/1031 "...was wrecked in the infamous Ford pile-up during the night." The crash that night involved car numbers 3 (Andretti/Bianchi Mark IV J-7 - Bronze/White), 6 (Schlesser/Ligier in P/1015 - White/Red-Black), and 5 (Gardner/McCluskey in P/1031 - Gold/White). However, as seen in the picture in the website you referenced (www.racingicons.com) showing the car at the subsequent Rheims 12 Hour race shows the light blue/black stripes on P/1031, identified as GT40P#1031/1047 MkIIB(http://www.racingicons.com/gt/finish.htm). Thus, I submit that Mr. Spain is slightly in error with regard to this vehicle, as it is clear that the "original" P/1047 was not light blue with black stripes.
I also reference their article which details the restoration of P/1031 - http://www.racingicons.com/gt/1031_1047.htm
As to the whereabouts of the original P/1047 (driven by Gurney/Grant in 1966), I have not researched whether it's chassis was eventually found and restored. However, I submit that the Gurney/Grant GT40 P/1047 was the Gardner/McClusky #5 gold/white stripe vehicle involved the '67 Le Mans crash.
I also refer the readers to the "World Registry of Cobras & GT40's," 4th Edition, pages 996-997 (P/1031) and 1006-1007 (P1047).
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