2014 Corvette C7
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Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
eek:eek :facepalm: :frown
twobjshelbys
GT Owner
Is this 2015 emissions ready? I can't see them doing a body change for 2014 just to do it again for 2015.
Sinovac
GT Owner
The motor is all new (as much as a pushrod SBC can be "all new" :lol) and direct injected with variable valve timing.
I just can't get excited about the push rod SBC anymore. I know that they're still cheaper to build up, but they seem so antiquated, particularly when you see what Ford's done with the Mustang GT and especially the Boss 302. With a minimum amount of work, a lot of guys on the Boss sites are turning 8200 rpms with stock internals and neglible cash outlay.
2112
Blue/white 06'
KJD
GT Owner
Sinovac
GT Owner
Probably dead or in nursing homes designing colostomy bags.
I hear you though. While the profile of the C7 looks good, the rear is awful. Although I make fun of my brother's '03 Z06 all the time, I really like it. A very clean design.
The SBC is to the Corvette what the live axle is to the Mustang. They both work just fine, but they are perceived as archaic. After experiencing the wonder that the DOHC mod motor is, I'm sold on it. You would think GM would want a similar high(er) tech motor in its halo car, even if only for marketing purposes.
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2112
Blue/white 06'
Empty Pockets
ex-GT Owner
"Try" being the operative word there. Dispite all the excess 'monkey motion' going on inside 'em, the h.p. was lacking relative to it.
I haven't really cared a whole lot for the looks of the 'Vette since '72. My fave is the '63 split window "Fuelie"...followed by the '67 tri-power BB coupe...followed by the '68-'69 tri-power (or L-88) BB coupes. I wouldn't kick a '70 coupe out of my garage though.
I like the looks of the '57, '58, & '62s a lot, but their ergonomics/ride are just too darned 'uncomfy'. :frown
This. The rear as depicted in the renderings is probably the worst production rear end I've ever seen on a sports car. Beyond the fact that it looks like the lovechild of a Camaro and an angry Transformer, it just reminds me of a C4 with a Greenwood body kit. They definitely adhere to the "more holes, scoops, and vents!" design school. A plastics supplier somewhere got super excited when they saw the CAD. A designer buddy of mine from GM says the "groucho marx" eyebrow version in the pics is the Z06 variant.
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It's going to be extremely hard to beat performance-wise.
twobjshelbys
GT Owner
Well, Peter Brock went to work for Carroll Shelby and designed the Daytona Coupe, and then went on his own at Brock Racing (www.bre2.net).
Sinovac
GT Owner
The rear looks worse in color. I have only seen black and white renderings (or maybe those were Groucho Marx pictures. Hmmm.) Hopefully the actual rear fascia will look better in person. I like the profile and the front end. It would be a shame if such a good car was saddled with that design defect. Perhaps GM lured away the designer who was responsible for the 2010-2012 Mustang rear end.
I think he left GM in the late '50s. I believe he is credited with the initial conceptual Stingray drawing. A really nice and talented guy. I met him when he was at Sebring promoting the sale of Coupe #CSX2601 (remarkably, my son was allowed to sit in it).
I think he left GM in the late '50s. I believe he is credited with the initial conceptual Stingray drawing. A really nice and talented guy. I met him when he was at Sebring promoting the sale of Coupe #CSX2601 (remarkably, my son was allowed to sit in it).
On page 67 of the Jan 2013 R&T, the show a size comparison of the SBC and BMW's 4.4 liter TT V-8. The article states the SBC (newest LT1) weighs 465lbs, and looks to be about 7/8s the size of the BMW mill. Does anyone know the weight of the 5.0 DOHC Ford, or for that matter the new Boss 302? I wonder what the dimension differences would be as well. I know the pushrods allow for a fairly low deck (and a lot less moving parts), but I wonder where the weight comes in for the Ford.
Sinovac
GT Owner
444 lbs for the Coyote, without accessories, according to this:
http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/2012_BOSS_302_5_0L_444HP_CRATE_ENGINE_p/m-6007-m50b.htm
Very good when you consider how much bigger (physically) the 5.0 is. The DOHC motors are quite tall and wide.
http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/2012_BOSS_302_5_0L_444HP_CRATE_ENGINE_p/m-6007-m50b.htm
Very good when you consider how much bigger (physically) the 5.0 is. The DOHC motors are quite tall and wide.
Sinovac
GT Owner
Performance-wise, absolutely, but the aesthetics are all wrong. With the availablity of really good aftermarket fuel injection, engine management and roller valve train systems for the pushrod 302, you can build a nice motor for about the same price as the crate DOHC Boss and have something equal in horsepower that looks like it belongs in the car. I'm sure it won't last as long though.
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Mike Mosing
GT Owner
They butchered the rear end. DBK said it right. Boy I am glad I bout my 2011 ZR1 and didn't wait for the C7.
Not certain the new Viper backside is much better......
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-dodge-viper/#photo-4940621
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-dodge-viper/#photo-4940621