What do you guys actually do for living?

[AZGT]

Just one more thing , did any of you guys went to university

Well, yes I did. Also did college teaching - taught technical writing. Obviously, you were not one of my students - keep going. :biggrin

Read "Rich Dad - Poor Dad". It rambles - could have been said in 20 pages, but ideas are good (the author also wasn't one of my students).

 

[SLF360]

How to get there

There is many ways to get a GT and stuff..One seems to be to marry a rich wife, if I invert the number six discussion here, preferably in Britain if I understand neil correctly ! :lol
jokes apart...
Usually University does help, but choose a good one ! I first became a thermodynamic engineer, but already started my first company while I was still doing that to not get totally monotematic and be able to afford a good life..
Then I decided for Marketing because I felt only engineering would be too narrow, and my dad was a big engineering honcho in that field, and by chance also the guy that financed my Professors with industrial research projects.. :lol So I was unfortunately not really on neutral territory from the start..but still walked away with a Patent, nevertheless to prove it.

Then decided to rather go to a quite reputable maker of Diapers and Detergents, to get a reallife marketing education, .. based in Cincinatti, to do MY thing. ...Father was totally pissed off, until he realized it was a wise decision. From then on, things came step by step and rather fast, I'll spare you the rest... :wink

hope that helps you getting motivated, young man !
stefan

 

[ChipBeck]

One miss....one hit.

Miss...I was thinking of moving to california and finish my studies there but it is really expensive compared to here in canada....Don't move from one socialist area to another socialist area. :thumbsdow Perhaps Texas.

Hit...About the marriage thing , im really not planning on marrying a woman(well im young and naive as for now) but anyway I just think that if you really love a woman and so does she why do you have to marry her ? what does it give more?.....Bullseye.....Now you're on the right track! :thumbsup

#6 is the inevitable result of the divergance of objectives. Men marry to have their hot little recreational unit close at hand for frequent scrimmages. Women marry to perminantly lash an "income mule" to their nest building cart. This realization normally hits men about 15 minutes AFTER they get married. Proof of this can be found in any wedding reception photo. Look at the brides face, dizzingly happy, she looks like a cat who just swallowed the canary. Now look at the grooms face, his expression is similar to that of a 2 year old who has just crapped in his pants....he knows that something has just gone very wrong, but he's still not sure exactly what. :ack

Chip

 

[Pipelion]

W.C. Fields...."Women are like elephants to me,.........-

I like to look at them,..... but I wouldn't want to own one".

 

[Matavarium]

Obviously, you were not one of my students - keep going. :biggrin

Ha lol, well my first language is french and I just started going to an english school this year. Don't worry my english will get better :thumbsup but anyway , where do you get that article " Rich Dad - Poor Dad"?

And yeah here in canada theres so many problem with the ?governement(is this the right word in english)? and having a business. Too many income taxe if you declare everything. My dad has a residential moving company ( moving people from house to house , dont know the name of this type of company lol ) and has several trucks. I admit he does not declare everything or else he woudnt make money for himself at all , I think thats a major problem here. But I have to admit we have free health care which is good. Anyway ...


( Change of subject ) I havent seen any Ford Gt here in Montreal. I heard that there is safety characteristics that the Ford GT doesnt have ( I heard something about the front bumper) that makes it illegal to drive here , maybe in Quebec especially. Do any of you know or is it just because it is too expensive for any canadian lol. But I have seen a Ferrari 430...

thanks!

 

[Pipelion]

Mat.,

The "Rich Dad Poor Dad"is a book by a guy from Hawaii. He started with very little and became rich because of a man taking him under his wing. It's a great book. The author's written many books, many are good, but start with the one mentioned.

Your e :cheers nglish is "tre magnifique", sorry I can't spell in french.

Reading the book is one thing, doing is another, do both.

Also google billionaires, of the top ten richest, several were college drop outs and one a high school drop out and the others inherited the money. But an educations point isn't to make money it's to make one knowledgeable.

Cheers,

Allan

 

[AZGT]

Ha lol, well my first language is french and I just started going to an english school this year. Don't worry my english will get better :thumbsup but anyway , where do you get that article " Rich Dad - Poor Dad"?

OK then, you are forgiven. :thumbsup

Rich Dad - Poor Dad is a paperback book. Talks about the author's life growing up with two fathers (no, they were not gay or a spiderman - one was a step father). One father was a business man, the other was educated and a teacher. Not the greatest book in the world, but it does make you think.

Education will not make you rich, but it does give you some tools that may help you become rich. It teaches thought process. Wealth comes from thinking, risk, long hours, and / or lots of luck. Remember, we are all frustrated geniuses and world shakers.

Me, I am just some poor, educated, dumb bastard - but happy as a clam :banana

 

[Mad Max]

Sounds like great advice for someone just starting out, but lets say,...you're about, oh, maybe 40? Where would a guy, if he was interested, get started at that not so old age? I mean, I ahh, I have a friend, yeah, thats it "a friend" that was thinking that way :wink

 

[Pipelion]

Sounds like great advice for someone just starting out, but lets say,...you're about, oh, maybe 40? Where would a guy, if he was interested, get started at that not so old age? I mean, I ahh, I have a friend, yeah, thats it "a friend" that was thinking that way :wink

Mad Max,

Don't you realize you have a very good chance living to a 100 plus years old? Yea. They are already growing various organs, and soon most others will be available. So at forty or fifty or sixty you can still start.

Everyone envoled in "commerce" (this includes some idiot performing mime on a street corner), has a various sized flow of money going through their hands.

'Rich Dad poor Dad' explains the importance of this dynamic. And educates the reader on various keys of wealth building. Other great books also tell us how to get bucks.

Rockerfeller would pick up a nickle and say, "here's a years interest on a dollar at 5%". Every penny is important.

You have to forgo the thousands of useless articles we all "can't live without", until you get a little army of "George Washingtons" working for you. No cds, one or two pair of jeans, cheap car not expensive car. Dates at eachothers place not at club, on and on.


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or,,,,,,,,,Solve a problem.............!!!!!

Solve a problem and you can make millions and billions.

Gates solved a problem before we knew we had a problem, ie...what problem?

The problem was........How can we have a box in all our homes and businesses that can store tons of paperwork, photos, videos, comunications. AND change all of our lives
by having DBK start this web site and Mad Max ask a question "FOR A FRIEND" and Allan tell him how Gates answered MM before he knew he was going to ask? Sound crazy? It happened.

You don't have to solve a big problem. Solve a tiny problem. But the first problem is getting a good book like RDPD. so you'll get it that any idiot can be rich.

But watch for problems to solve, they are every where all day long at home at work. Write down the problem then write down the solution.

But reread this whole thread, because there's a ton of priceless info on here really. :cool

Allan

OR better still.....Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all else will be added unto you. (Look for (seek) God's Kingdom and he'll make sure you have everything you evey dreamed of and more).

 

[ChipBeck]

Best how to buy a GT books.

Mad Max,
'Rich Dad poor Dad' explains the importance of this dynamic. And educates the reader on various keys of wealth building. Other great books also tell us how to get bucks.

IMHO....Rich Dad, Poor Dad is a pretty good remake of a better book that came out a couple years before called "The Millionaire Next Door". The Millionaire Next Door is a pretty good remake of the original book on this subject that came out many years before that called "The Richest Man in Babylon". In America, one out of every 32 households is a millionaire's home. If you have the desire and self control these books will show you the way. Age 40 is a great time to start Max! If it were possible I'd trade you my age for yours and I'd throw in 2 GT's. :biggrin Count your blessings, get started, and I'll see you on the road.

Chip

 

[Pipelion]

Chip,

That's why I said read the whole thread, you nailed 80% in a few sentences back on page one. :thumbsup :thumbsup

I've read the latter and the former of your list, haven't read the middle one. :bang

Allan

 

[Fords4life351]

Yeah, Howard Stern is definitely someone you want to take marrital advice from! :lol You guys are starting to ruin my lovely image that you are all happily married!!! :frown Marriage can't be THAT terrible! Not all women are materialistic & I'm not even going to touch on cheating, because I hope no one on here has even considerend that! I'd like to think that if it came down to getting a few million in assets for a divorce or giving it another chance w/the man she fell in love with, a woman would choose the latter (unless of course the guy did one of the few "unforgiveables")... If divorce was inevitable, there are plenty of women who I'm sure would walk away from it w/what they brought into it & not make the man go back to "#1". :wink I'm still waiting for my knight in shining armor & still believe in "happily ever after". Maybe that's why I'm still single?

now only if most of women thought like that...

 

[Fords4life351]

Mat.,

The "Rich Dad Poor Dad"is a book by a guy from Hawaii. He started with very little and became rich because of a man taking him under his wing. It's a great book. The author's written many books, many are good, but start with the one mentioned.

Your e :cheers nglish is "tre magnifique", sorry I can't spell in french.

Reading the book is one thing, doing is another, do both.

Also google billionaires, of the top ten richest, several were college drop outs and one a high school drop out and the others inherited the money. But an educations point isn't to make money it's to make one knowledgeable.

Cheers,

Allan

that is exactly the same way I feel about college, I dropped out because i just felt it wasnt for me, i'm an entrepeneur at heart, I told my self that if i do go back to college its for personal enrichment, not because i need it to make a living.

 

[Matavarium]

Thanks all. Just a few questions. As I mentionned before; Is there Ford GTs in Montreal,Canada, I havent seen one, is it legal to have one here?

I dont really understand the system of education in USA. Is it High school then college then University ? Because here its : High school (you start at around 12years old and finish at 17; basically its 5 years) then there is Cegep (you start at 17 and finish at 19; its 2 years and thats what I am in right now) then there is University which you start at 19 .

Im starting to see clearer now. Seriously I think you really need to move there if you want to live the american dream, staying here is really difficult to accomplish your dreams, and thats what my dad told me.

Anyway I wont give you all of my life , sorry for using your time reading all of this. But if you could answer to the first 2 questions it would be really appreciated.

 

[Pipelion]

Mat.,

Canuck and CanuckGT both live in Canada and at least one or both have already taken delivery of their Ford GTs. The Canadian models have a foam filled nose and an additional bumper damper. Some Canadian cars are built but a major run of GTs, for Eurpoe and Can. starts after the US run is completed this summer. I'm no expert, if anyone knows different please correct me.

High school is first, but it's been so long ago I'll let someone younger explain the rest. Well let me try.

1. pre school 3 & 4 years old
1.2 kindergarden 5 years of age
2. grade school 1st grade through 5th or 6th (6-11 years old)

3. middle school 7th & 8th grade 12 & 13 years old

4. high school 9th grade 'Freshman'
..........................10th grade 'sophmore'
..........................11th grade 'junior'
...........................12th grade 'senior'

Most are 17 to 18 years old. Now one has his High school diploma. If you drop out , you can take a GED? I think it's called that. It allows you to say you have a high school education. Some are younger or older by 6 to 9 months.

Now it's college time;

most programs two years=associates degree

.........................four years = bachelors degree ..many graduate here, though one is still an undergraduate.

.........................six years = masters degree

.........................doctorit degree additional two years. But must write a thesis.

........................Medical doctors have to intern as well as Vetrinarians (additional time).

I did 4 years at a community college, Radio & TV, independent study in photography, and taught college skiiing classes.

Got a life sentence in 1975 in Aspen, CO but was paroled in 1994. :cool

Allan

 

[valart]

200 GTs for Canada (ugly rear bumper by the way).

http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_display.cfm?release=21113

College = University

 

[Piccola]

Matavarium,

High school is from 14-18 (4 yrs). You then have the option of furthering your education, but it's not mandatory. You can go to a technical school (1-3 yrs), get your associates degree (2 yrs), or get a bachelor's degree at a college/university (usually 4 yrs). Some people work during the day & go to college at night. There are many options! Find out early what entrance tests you need to take, especially since you are from a foreign country. You may need to take an English verbal & writing exam, & they will want to make sure your education level is equivalent to that of a US high school graduate prior to beginning college level classes.

Once you have your bachelor's degree (4 yr college degree), or while you are in college, you can take another exam depending on what career path you choose, & apply for higher education. For example, to go to medical school you would take the MCAT, to go to law school you would take the LSAT, to go to graduate school for your MBA you would take the GMAT, etc...

If you choose to be a medical doctor, you would go to 4 years of medical school - there are also medical colleges that have 5 yr programs to get both your PhD & MD (many MD's spend a lot of time in research) & some places have "medical scholar" programs combining college & medical school in 6 yrs (though you have to maintain a very high GPA & it is very selective, difficult, & fast-paced). You go through a match program your 3rd yr to "match" with a residency program in your specialty. If you wanted to be a neurosurgeon (for instance) you would have a 1 yr internship & 6 yrs of residency after medical school, which is followed by possibly 1-2 yrs of a subspecialty fellowship. Every specialty is different & it has nothing to do w/age... I will warn you that if you don't really want to be a doctor, don't. It's a lot of hard work & long hours with little pay until you finish your residency/fellowship & become an "attending physician" (or able to see your own patients). There are much "quicker" ways to make a lot of money if that's your sole intention.

Law school & many masters programs (masters degree comes after bachelor's degree) follow college & are typically 3 years.

You can also go further & obtain your doctorate, a 2nd masters, etc. It all depends on what you choose to do. :willy There are no age limits & many people work & go to school at the same time. Very flexible!

You are soooooo young!!! I'm not that old, but here are my 2 cents. Go after your dreams no matter what hurdles you have to leap over, no matter how many times you have to start over. It's easy to quit & make excuses, but takes real strength to pick yourself up & keep going. Listen to successful people, not unsuccessful (they will try to keep you from your dreams). Find out what successful people do & you'll start to see a pattern. Educate yourself so you don't make the sames mistakes I made when I started a sales & marketing firm at 19... The risk is part of the fun, but the more you can lower your risk, the higher your chance for success! I've found out in my own life that even those closest to you can seem to do their best to hold you back. Don't let them. My family who I love very much has told me I would fail many times. They've said that most of the things I've done or tried are "unobtainable" or "too risky" or "too dangerous". You only live once so make sure to live your life the way that you (& no one else) want to live. I hear too many people saying "I wish I would have tried this or done that." And one last thing... Enjoy the journey & enjoy life! No matter what the end result will be, I always try, I always enjoy what I do, & even those things that people later call "failures" are always an adventure for me, which I learned from. No regrets. I wish you the same!

 

[Pipelion]

Gees piccola,

Glad you posted! :cheers

Allan

 

[vyprgt2]

some places have "medical scholar" programs combining college & medical school in 6 yrs (though you have to maintain a very high GPA & it is very selective, difficult, & fast-paced). You go through a match program your 3rd yr to "match" with a residency program in your specialty>>


The very high GPA prerequisite and the description of selective, difficult and fast-paced describes any standard US 4 year program- not just the MD/PhD tracts. Not to mention high MCAT scores and success on the admissions interviews helping to make the "selective" description an understatement. Many would also add adjectives such as exhausting and cut-throat. In fairness, some of the experiences can be fascinating and rewarding too.

Most residencies are 3-4 years after med school.

If I recall correctly, the "match" is fourth year.

 

[Piccola]

You were right. I was wrong... Thanks for the correction. :wink 4th year is when you have the wonderful & scary "match day", where a bunch a nervous penguins in suit & tie get 5 minute interviews from each of the attending MDs at each of the med colleges. Usually they just hope to get lucky enough to match w/anyone! Not cheap either for the already in a lot of debt med students. There are quite a few adjectives I could add to your very accurate ones, but I think our new Canadian friend will get the picture. :biggrin

Let's not scare him off by mentioning all the nights you spend "on call" at the hospital, happy to get a few minutes here & there to lay down before that darn pager goes off & you're up & running again. Then of course right when everything slows down it's 6 AM & time for morning rounds. It's always easy to spot who was on call by the wrinkled white coat, the effects of all that disgusting black coffee, & of course, the unshaven face (hopefully for the men only). :biggrin But if you can get past the residency intact & you enjoy medicine, (as was said) it's a wonderful & rewarding career w/a lot of amazing people!!

And... since you also sound like an entrepreneur in the making, this site also has its share of successful business men, who could read this & remember all the 16 hr days, weekends, stress, etc that they've put in as well... And I'm equally confident that they could stand back, look at what they've build/done, & know it was all worth it!

More importantly, no matter what their career choice (or yours), everyone on here has one thing in common - they are all CRAZY about the Ford GT!!! :banana I wish you luck w/making your dreams a reality, & hopefully one day soon, we'll see you out driving your very own GT!!! :cheers MJ