Ford Debuts All Electric Car


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"Customers who choose an electric vehicle at this point are really making a statement," Kuzak said. "They're making a statement about their environmental sensitivity, their energy independence and we'd like to support them."

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/216086/ford_debuts_allelectric_car.html
 

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"Customers who choose an electric vehicle at this point are really making a statement," Kuzak said. "They're making a statement about their environmental sensitivity, their energy independence

Not inclusive of the coal fired electrical generation plant that charged their batteries.
 

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You have to play by the rules you are given. This is part of the game.

p.s, Kuzak is the brains behind the quantum leap Ford cars have taken in the last ten years.
 

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Not inclusive of the coal fired electrical generation plant that charged their batteries.

That is the first thing that I thought.

You have to play by the rules you are given. This is part of the game.

p.s, Kuzak is the brains behind the quantum leap Ford cars have taken in the last ten years.

This is the second thing I thought!
 
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I have always wished I could fit "Global Warming" on my license plate...

On a separate note, the Volt sales kicked the Leaf sales' ass for the month of December
 

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On a separate note, the Volt sales kicked the Leaf sales' ass for the month of December

Both are almost non-existent and show little. Ford sells 50,000 F-series pickups in a month. Volt and Leaf combined aren't even 1% of that.
 

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You have to play by the rules you are given. This is part of the game.
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Agreed,

I am referring to the people who think their Carbon Footprint becomes zero by driving an E-car.
 

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I won't be buying any electric cars until my electric rates come down and the SUBSIDIES apply to me! IMO that is never going to happen. Just doesn't make a sense at 42 cents a KWH! I don't bring up time of use metering, that would only make my other uses of electricity worst!
 

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I'm not interested in electric cars period. At least pure electric cars. I can see where a car that utilizes supplemental electric engines like the 918 Spyder could be sweet. Just need to find that spare €500,000 I lost in the couch.
 
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I won't be buying any electric cars until my electric rates come down and the SUBSIDIES apply to me! IMO that is never going to happen. Just doesn't make a sense at 42 cents a KWH! I don't bring up time of use metering, that would only make my other uses of electricity worst!

Why don't you just mount a Honda Electric Generator to the roof of the car and install an auxiliary gas fuel-tank to supply your continuous battery charging system and be environmentally correct like the rest of NorCal. I know you have plenty of time on your hand so here are some pictures to get you motivated...
 

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:lolYou funny man Sam.
 

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Why don't you just mount a Honda Electric Generator to the roof of the car and install an auxiliary gas fuel-tank to supply your continuous battery charging system and be environmentally correct like the rest of NorCal. I know you have plenty of time on your hand so here are some pictures to get you motivated...

Sam do you believe in perpetual motion machines? Some idiots do.
 

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Good news. You can pretty much find a free plug anywhere (110 anyway)....until people get wise. Drive to work.....charge up all day on outside garden plug.

Bad news. Green? Really? Where/how do you dispose of those huge batteries?
 
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I won't pretend to be smart enough to know the particulars but what happened to the Hydrogen internal combustion engines that Ford and BMW developed in the late 90's? We keep the IC engines and have only water vapor as exhaust. I recall the engines ran extremely clean and power production was excellent.

I thought (here comes the ignorance) that Hydrogen is readily produced at nuclear facilities (in addition to green electricity)? I know packaging and distribution are challenges but last time I checked, we were able to send humans to the moon and bring them back.
 

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For a variety of package/cost/infrastructure reasons, hydrogen fuel cell cars are currently back burner material. If I'm not mistaken, the hydrogen for a fuel cell would come from electrolysis, which would still require electricity generated at a power plant.

I don't think any one version of anything is the winner of the race today. Everyone will be spreading their risk working on electric cars, fuel cell cars, CNG, biofuels, etc. Lots of options, but electric is buzzword right now. If you can find a station, you can run old CNG cars for less than $2 a gallon right now.
 

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OK but I wasn't thinking fuel cell. Ford had a Mustang test mule that had a Gasoline engine that ran on Hydrogen. Same with BMW. I think they could switch from Gasoline to Alcohol to Hydrogen with the flip of a switch.
 

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On a separate note, the Volt sales kicked the Leaf sales' ass for the month of December

Which only makes sense. The Leaf is DEAD at 100 miles. The Volt may only be able to go 40(?) miles on the battery alone, BUT, it can keep right on going (and get 200 MPG or whatever it is in the process).
 

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I think your thinking of thr Super Stallion Concept Mustang. That was a really cool car!
 
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Sam do you believe in perpetual motion machines? Some idiots do.

Dont get me started on idiots. The supply is ample and picking one would give me a headache
 

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I think your thinking of thr Super Stallion Concept Mustang. That was a really cool car!

That sounds right but I thought it had Hydrogen capabilities too?