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rf18412

GT Owner
Feb 28, 2011
72
Omaha, Nebraska
Nebraska is very expensive state to license a hobby car.
To license a GT in Nebraska First year, pay 6.5 % sales tax + $3,000 ish in other taxes and fees.
Second year $3,000 ish in taxes and fees. It hurts to pay this + insurance for a car I drive less than 3000 miles per year.
It would be even more if they calculate appreciation of GTs

I want to change this, many states are cheaper or have a good “hobby car” exceptions.

We have a new Governor starting January 2015. He says Nebraska has to be tax competitive to attract and
retain business. He is going to try fix the ridiculous tax laws and I need to give the Governor my plan soon.

Can you tell me what it costs to keep a GT in your state ?
Does your state have an exception for hobby cars?
What is the best state or plan you know of ?

I would prefer all taxes built into the gas tax. seems the most fair to me.

Thanks,
Robert Foster
Omaha, Nebraska
 

CanadaGT

GT Owner
Sep 28, 2006
189
Edmonton Alberta
Makes living up in Canada feel good. High of 0 today. I pay $84 a year to register plate. and approximately $ 700 a year to insure. Cdn dollars. I spend a lot more on tires. LOL
 

Xcentric

GT Owner
Mark II Lifetime
Jul 9, 2012
5,213
Myakka City, Florida
What is a hobby car?

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Kayvan

GT Owner
Jul 13, 2006
4,782
$350/yr in Cali for GT

$50/yr in NY
 

rf18412

GT Owner
Feb 28, 2011
72
Omaha, Nebraska
wow, very low
 

jaxgt

GT Owner
Mark IV Lifetime
Jul 12, 2006
2,795
For Florida, you pay sales tax on purchase of any car, new or used. Typically about 6-7% depending on the Florida county you reside in. This is just done once, on purchase.
In my county, I then pay abouty $200/yr to renew my annual registration.
 
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twobjshelbys

GT Owner
Jul 26, 2010
6,064
Las Vegas, NV
In Colorado sales tax was around 8% of the difference between the purchase price and trade in (if any). Registration goes down every after two (maybe three?) years until it hits a floor. The GT and my truck have floored out. The GT there was about 800 a year. Vanity plates are a one time charge of $85 and then $15 each year.

In looking on line the registration for the GT in Nevada will be roughly the same as Colorado. Sales tax is due on purchase but I don't know if the taxable amount is reduced by trade in. Vanity plates do cost a one time fee and annual extra.

So bottom line is Colorado and Nevada seem to have similar rules for the '06.

In Colorado for a car that was 76 or before you could get a 5 year collector car plate. You had to pass emissions (for the date of manufacture) ONCE but after that there were no other inspections. My Cobra was licensed and titled as a 65 and had 5 year plates. It appears Nevada has a similar rule.

Arizona allows newer vehicles to be covered as a "hobby car" like you describe. I believe they also don't require emissions tests on those vehicles. The Colorado emissions guys took a while to do my first test and specifically asked if I had the headers with the cat bumpouts - they know they're not real and reject the car if they had them. It must have been in some database.

Good luck jousting the windmill!
 

PeteK

GT Owner
Mark II Lifetime
Apr 18, 2014
2,292
Kalama, Free part of WA State
In Virginia, the counties can (and do) assess personal property taxes on cars. In Farifax, the rate is 3.57% PER YEAR, and that's on the currently assessed market value, so in the case of FGTs it goes up each year (and I think Fairfax is the highest rate). My tax bill for 2014 was almost $8000. That's more than I spend for everything else on the car combined. A lot more. I'm looking at West Virginia to get to a more reasonable tax bill.
 

twobjshelbys

GT Owner
Jul 26, 2010
6,064
Las Vegas, NV
There's always the Montana LLC. Talked with a guy with a new Audi that did it.
 

shelbyelite

PERMANENTLY BANNED
May 10, 2007
1
Get you a Montana llc. Problem solved (unless you live in CA, they are onto the "Montana llc" thing in that state)
 

twobjshelbys

GT Owner
Jul 26, 2010
6,064
Las Vegas, NV
Get you a Montana llc. Problem solved (unless you live in CA, they are onto the "Montana llc" thing in that state)

They are in Colorado too. More states are cracking down, especially on boats and motor homes. Our cars aren't "in the wild" to be able to get too much attention.
 

GTED

GT Owner
Apr 4, 2006
783
What!! No for CA already!! Coincidentally, I was just talking with a friend about Montana LLC last week.... Damn it.

Get you a Montana llc. Problem solved (unless you live in CA, they are onto the "Montana llc" thing in that state)
 

GTdrummer

GT Owner
Mark II Lifetime
Le Mans 2010 Supporter
Mar 13, 2010
2,104
Richmond Virginia
Get you a Montana llc. Problem solved (unless you live in CA, they are onto the "Montana llc" thing in that state)

A rare piece of bad advice from Shelby. States are onto the Montana deal. You can face big fines and they can go back several years. There are lots of horror stories. Not saying folks aren't doing it but you have to be a thrillseeker.
 

dbk

The Favor Factory™
Staff member
Le Mans 2010 Supporter
Jul 30, 2005
15,187
Metro Detroit
In Virginia, the counties can (and do) assess personal property taxes on cars. In Farifax, the rate is 3.57% PER YEAR, and that's on the currently assessed market value, so in the case of FGTs it goes up each year (and I think Fairfax is the highest rate). My tax bill for 2014 was almost $8000. That's more than I spend for everything else on the car combined. A lot more. I'm looking at West Virginia to get to a more reasonable tax bill.

Holy shit! That's horrible!
 

Xcentric

GT Owner
Mark II Lifetime
Jul 9, 2012
5,213
Myakka City, Florida
^^^Many posts about VA county annual property tax. Several by me. I did it for 1 1/2 years in Fairfax County and then moved to Florida. Not all counties. Just the wealthy ones.

They know what's up too. My GT was assessed at $165K in 2012 and $185K in 2013. X 3.57% every year.
 

AJB

GT
Mark II Lifetime
Le Mans 2010 Supporter
Jun 28, 2006
2,944
Bloomfield Hills, Michigan
Michigan comments..
--you pay sales tax ONCE. upon purchase 6%
--you pay registration each year - for a stick on license plate tab and it varies by value of the vehicle. NO discount unless the car is 25 years old . motorcycles are constant at $23.00/year

So --
--For the FGT I pay $568.00/year
--2005 Tbird - $164.00 /year
--Harley UltraClassic LTD m/C --- $23.00 /year
--1991 Mercedes $310.00 /year(it is based on initial value in 1991 and in NOT reduced till the vehicle Is 25 yrs old :(:(

My Michigan Insurance agent is aware of the Montana plan... naturally they say stay away from it..

andy (ajb)
 

Xcentric

GT Owner
Mark II Lifetime
Jul 9, 2012
5,213
Myakka City, Florida
People, don't waste your time on fantasies like a Montana LLC, unless you are fully committed to a legitimate (or elaborate pretense of legitimate) Montana business. Register your car in MT under a LLC...and nothing else? Forget it.
 

2112

Blue/white 06'
Mark II Lifetime
$350/yr in Cali for GT

$50/yr in NY

Did California get you for some type of Use or sales tax when you brought your cars in from New York?
 

Kayvan

GT Owner
Jul 13, 2006
4,782
Did California get you for some type of Use or sales tax when you brought your cars in from New York?

Nope; as long as you bought it prior to coming to Cali (think it's 1yr min)

Did get a break on my SL as reg docs asks what you bought it for, which was $4K in '91 used NOT current
value.
 

Kayvan

GT Owner
Jul 13, 2006
4,782
Is Virginia part of USSR?