Project TTSGT Dyno shakedown began tonight !!

jj1987 · Dec 31, 2007

Another dyno video added that gives a bit better sound clip from the rear.
http://www.unleashedtuning.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60

STORMCAT · Dec 31, 2007

QKSTNG514 said:
Have not heard from Torrie yet this morning which means he has probably gone thru a few tanks of gas and hasnt been to bed yet. LOLOL

Some of you know the story of how this unfolded so for those that dont here is the scoop!

After arriving at the SEMA show and visiting the Bassani/Hellion Booth I was intrigued by the Twin Turbo setup for the 03/04 Cobra in that it incorporated the factory Eaton as well.

First thought..... Damn, we need to to that to a GT!!!

I got ahold of Torrie and escorted him to the booth and just let him stare at in a moment... Result.... Same thought in his mind also!! He kept muttering something about his Supercharger still sitting on the kitchen counter.. LOL

So the idea began and we spent the next few days discussing it and hatching the plan to do it on his gal!!

Once we got back it, Torrie using his Fastpartsnetwork.com connections gathered the parts needed for the reinstall and brought his gal to HP Performance in Orange Park and my shop foreman Jason Combs aka "Longhair" and Sean Story, reinstalled the supercharger and rerouted hoses as needed.

With the Supercharger on and the Turbos pushing air to the atmosphere I adjusted the tune sans the MAF and drove it to Tracy Grimm at Speedfab for the fabrication of the inlet tube that joined the two air handlers together...

Tracy finished the Fabwork and drove it back to HP where I called Torrie and told him the TTSGT was awaiting its owner and the Dyno was open for busniess!!

I think he drove his SRT-8 Jeep mach 2 to get to the shop and by that time we had her strapped down. After a few short pulls Torrie had her ready for BOOST!!

Needless to say another dream realized and another mod for the GT bretheren to ponder!!!

LOL Just talked with Torrie.. He was up early and out driving all morning!! LOL

TonY G

I sat next next to these two Mad Doctors at the BONY SEMA dinner and they were giddy as school boys about the new project.. Of course they were tight lipped about the details so it's great to see this project come to fruition in a short period of time.. Good Job guys !! :thumbsup
Now I believe you two also have something else in the works....:eek

DoctorV8 · Dec 31, 2007

abolfaz said:
Volvo marine diesels are turboed and SC'ed, once they reach a certain RPM an A/C style clutch mounted on the SC disengages the SC and it runs on the turbo. This setup has NO LAG at all and makes the little 6 cylinder diesel feel like a monster.

The 2003 and up Mercedes AMG twin screw blowers also incorporate an electromagnetic clutch....wouldn't it be cool to incorporate something like that on a FGT?

Jason Watt · Dec 31, 2007

This is just INSANE!!! :eek WOW - I need to go and change my boxers....

OK, I'm back (the chair is still wet though)...

This is a brilliant idea. But all this talk of bypassing the SC at higher revs - is that really important if the TTS-system makes higher numbers that the TT's alone??

Torrie said it before - you're the maaan

Bye bye turbo lag (which has allways been my major cocern in regards to converting). Torrie, I'll be following your progress, and be ready to open my toolbox this spring...

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

STORMCAT said:
I sat next next to these two Mad Doctors at the BONY SEMA dinner and they were giddy as school boys about the new project.. Of course they were tight lipped about the details so it's great to see this project come to fruition in a short period of time.. Good Job guys !! :thumbsup
Now I believe you two also have something else in the works....:eek

That's absolutely right ! Brian sat across the table from Leslie and I at dinner in Vegas. Yeah the hamster was setting the wheel on fire in my head that night. I couldn't wait to get back so that Tony and I could get this in motion !!!

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

There are always multiple ways to go about this but our initial design theory was to keep it simple. I am pleased with the results that's for sure. :biggrin

one of 101 said:
This is just INSANE!!! :eek WOW - I need to go and change my boxers....

OK, I'm back (the chair is still wet though)...

This is a brilliant idea. But all this talk of bypassing the SC at higher revs - is that really important if the TTS-system makes higher numbers that the TT's alone??

Torrie said it before - you're the maaan

Bye bye turbo lag (which has allways been my major cocern in regards to converting). Torrie, I'll be following your progress, and be ready to open my toolbox this spring...

shesgotlegs · Dec 31, 2007

tmcphail said:
You need to drive my GT now and see how your perception of the term lag changes :lol:lol:lol:lol

A madman with the memory of an elephant.:lol:lol

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

shesgotlegs said:
A madman with the memory of an elephant. lol lol

Hey that isn't tough to recall not many people get an in into the drivers seat of my GT. I remember every second of that ride with you, down to how enjoyable it was to get in reverse :lol:lol:lol

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

Another Video :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1368991247906849349

shesgotlegs · Dec 31, 2007

tmcphail said:
Hey that isn't tough to recall not many people get an in into the drivers seat of my GT. I remember every second of that ride with you, down to how enjoyable it was to get in reverse :lol:lol:lol

Touche.

See you in early April.

Happy New Year,

Terry

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

shesgotlegs said:
Touche.

See you in early April.

Happy New Year,

Terry

Right back at you Terry !

Whipple Charged · Dec 31, 2007

tmcphail said:
Wouldn't that involve a clutch system cycling the the blower on / off. I don't see a real simple way to do that off hand.

We are already making more power with less pressure then the turbo's alone.

Yes, it would need a clutch of some sorts. Spinning the compressor to 14,000 (stock pulley) with 0 boost will still take 40-60hp. Bypass only works in vacuum, open it in boost and the blower power consumption increases since the air goes in a loop and is cycled over and over again.

Note that if you install the 3.4 liter SC, you'll see better torque at lower rpm's, a cooler temp and less psi drop at the inlet of the SC. Overall power would increase as well, since the vacuum from the SC is much higher, and therefore the turbo's will work more effectively.

Dustin

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

Whipple Charged said:
Yes, it would need a clutch of some sorts. Spinning the compressor to 14,000 (stock pulley) with 0 boost will still take 40-60hp. Bypass only works in vacuum, open it in boost and the blower power consumption increases since the air goes in a loop and is cycled over and over again.

Note that if you install the 3.4 liter SC, you'll see better torque at lower rpm's, a cooler temp and less psi drop at the inlet of the SC. Overall power would increase as well, since the vacuum from the SC is much higher, and therefore the turbo's will work more effectively.

Dustin

Agreed. Its pretty sick right now with that tiny 2.3L on top right now.

tpraceman · Dec 31, 2007

tmcphail said:
Agreed. Its pretty sick right now with that tiny 2.3L on top right now.

Get a chute and come on up to Michigan and we'll try that 0-200-0 run.

So I guess the next step is installing twin dual turbos

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rtm · Dec 31, 2007

Super cool, if I already have the ford long tube headers that match to the stock muffler location, could you build the twins from there or would you have to rework the exhaust from the heads?

Wow, big power all over the place, I want them.

Any ideas on the cost of a kit?

Thanks

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

I still have the stock manifolds on my car. No matter what you have something can be built to fit it.

Cost to do this for someone else we don't have right now. This was initially a way to satisfy the curiosity of Tony and I to see what the exact end result would be. So far its much better then we expected.

tmcphail · Dec 31, 2007

tpraceman said:
Get a chute and come on up to Michigan and we'll try that 0-200-0 run.

So I guess the next step is installing twin dual turbos

Tom you crack me up. I can't say ever in my life I expected anyone to say to me 'Get a chute and come on up to Michigan' :lol:lol

KRAZYPSI · Jan 1, 2008

Where do I sign?

Nice work guys!!

Jason Watt · Jan 1, 2008

Whipple Charged said:
Note that if you install the 3.4 liter SC, you'll see better torque at lower rpm's, a cooler temp and less psi drop at the inlet of the SC. Overall power would increase as well, since the vacuum from the SC is much higher, and therefore the turbo's will work more effectively.

Dustin

WOW coming close to 80 replys in 5 days - this thread is a winner :biggrin

Of course I'm now thinking Whipple and TT's would be the ideal combo - whats the guess on improvement over the current setup?? 20- 30 HP and perhaps 50Nm?? (I know this is hard to estimate)

Dustin - you should sponsor old Torrie a 3.4 and that way be affiliated with the new king on the throne as the "Worlds Fastest Ford GT"

Torrie - is the TT kit the same as you have run previosly?? It looks to be just the tubing on the pressure side has been changed to "feed" the SC instead of hooking up to the air box you gus had made...

PS: A bumper sticker saying "I just has Piko for breakfast" would be in place... :lol (just kiddin - know you to are buddys)

tmcphail · Jan 1, 2008

one of 101 said:
WOW coming close to 80 replys in 5 days - this thread is a winner :biggrin

Of course I'm now thinking Whipple and TT's would be the ideal combo - whats the guess on improvement over the current setup?? 20- 30 HP and perhaps 50Nm?? (I know this is hard to estimate)

Dustin - you should sponsor old Torrie a 3.4 and that way be affiliated with the new king on the throne as the "Worlds Fastest Ford GT"

Torrie - is the TT kit the same as you have run previosly?? It looks to be just the tubing on the pressure side has been changed to "feed" the SC instead of hooking up to the air box you gus had made...

PS: A bumper sticker saying "I just has Piko for breakfast" would be in place... :lol (just kiddin - know you to are buddys)

The only physical part of the kit we changed was the piping that goes from the Turbos to the blower. Everything else is the same.

Hey I am more then willing to be the 3.4L test mule here. I would absolutely love to map out the differences and see what the exact end result would be with that single change.

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