Rally 12 Track Day Tip #3


Beez

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15. Will Ford Performance supply any instructors to ride along with Novice drivers to help ease them into high performance driving? No. Novice drivers are encouraged to pair up with a willing Advanced Forum driver for coaching if they desire.
I had to cancel my pre-Rally track instruction here at home, and am a novice. I'd think that the Advanced Forum drivers would rather be spending their track time driving their own cars, than coaching me. But for anyone that may be willing, please give me a holler.

Alternatively, does anyone think there might be a way to hire my own instructor through UMC?
 

Biginch Blake

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One thing we all hope won't be needed is our tow hooks but they came with the car for a reason. It is always best to install/screw it in while running on the track. Even something simple may happen and it a lot easier to install in the parking lot than under pressure on the track. Remember it is left hand threads.
 

twobjshelbys

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Jul 26, 2010
5,332
Las Vegas, NV
I had to cancel my pre-Rally track instruction here at home, and am a novice. I'd think that the Advanced Forum drivers would rather be spending their track time driving their own cars, than coaching me. But for anyone that may be willing, please give me a holler.

Alternatively, does anyone think there might be a way to hire my own instructor through UMC?
There were plenty of folks willing to do a ride along. You will also get a lead/follow session to familiarize you with the track.

Regardless, I highly encourage you to sign up for one of the high performance driving classes. I've done Bondurant in Phoenix three times, but there are classes at UMC, and at Spring Mountain near Vegas.

I see you are in the Denver area, so a little hint of how I got my classes: If you are able to attend the Shelby American Collection fundraiser in early September, Bondurant has so far always had a class on the silent auction. I've gotten my class for about 1/2 price each time (and the donation to the Shelby museum). The class is usually the two day class which can be upgraded to the 4 day class. Then later you can get the advanced class. You can drive your own car in the advanced class but they recommend only doing so for 1/2 day since you'll go through a set of tires and brakes. Also, Phoenix in February is a nice break from the bitter cold that happens around stock show time.

Another thing about Bondurant is that when I took the courses they used Corvettes. They have since changed to Dodge (Vipers in the advanced). Fellows (Spring Mountain) is still Corvettes, and UMC uses Fords. UMC is the place where GT350 owners get their course. Is Ford doing a class there for NGT owners?
 
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roketman

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Specracer

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A repeat offender, ha, we can do that.

I humbly request one refresher session.
 

Beez

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There were plenty of folks willing to do a ride along. You will also get a lead/follow session to familiarize you with the track.
Sounds real good!

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Awesome - thanks and pencil me in:biggrin
 

PeteK

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Pencil me in also, Thanks.
 

Mike Mosing

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Roketman will not only teach you how to cut corners, but you will learn how to cut meat in the same lesson. Sign up. Drive up. Eat up.
 

roketman

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I have been instructing since 1992!
 

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Indy GT

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There were plenty of folks willing to do a ride along. You will also get a lead/follow session to familiarize you with the track.
Unfortunately only partially correct. Twobjshelbys is not attending the R12 event and does not know the track or event schedule.
We will not be doing any “lead-follow” session at UMC this year. There will be a brief morning session for all drivers to drive on the track in a no-passing environment to warm up their car brakes, tires and drivers head.

There are a number of advanced level drivers who are happy to volunteer their coaching skills in a ride along capacity to the new drivers during the novice sessions. This will be discussed at the drivers meeting and pairings made.

Alternatively, does anyone think there might be a way to hire my own instructor through UMC?
Beez, I think this is unlikely (but not impossible). You may just have to explore this when you arrive at UMC.
 

twobjshelbys

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Jul 26, 2010
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Las Vegas, NV
Unfortunately only partially correct. Twobjshelbys is not attending the R12 event and does not know the track or event schedule.
We will not be doing any “lead-follow” session at UMC this year. There will be a brief morning session for all drivers to drive on the track in a no-passing environment to warm up their car brakes, tires and drivers head.

Yes, my observation was based on the experience at R9. Sorry.
 

BtwoG

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Dec 8, 2013
900
Atlanta, GA
Also, remember not to tighten lug nuts while the car is hot. And dont put on the parking brake immediately after a session. Put the car in gear instead. Most people like to take a slow drive around a safe area like an access road to cool the car down.
 

Indy GT

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Good advice BtwoG....
PM sent.
 

ChipBeck

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Gentlemen,

Almost every attendee is familiar with Roketman Ron and his abilities as both a driver and an instructor but if you are new and don't know him you should seek him out before or during the track day. Every time I let him drive my GT at a track I'm blown away by how much faster and smoother he is than me or just about anybody else. I don't think I've ever attended a Rally Track Day without a session with Ron. He's very generous with his time so take advantage of his instruction. I guarantee you'll learn a lot, have a good, safe time, and you'll be stunned at the real capabilities of your GT and the top drivers. See you in Utah!

Chip
 

Indy GT

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Tip #1 – Bleed your brakes.
Tip #2 – Flags, their meaning and track terminology

On hind sight perhaps I should have commented about tires in the first track tip as it seems getting a fresh set of Bridgestones (at least the Potenza's 050A Scuderia 345/35R19 110Y rear tires) is a bit problematic for some wanting a new set of tires for our track event. There have been a number of discussions on our Fourm as to the newer go-to Bridgestones over the OE Goodyear’s. In its day the Goodyear’s were a good all around tire which the GT engineering team worked with Goodyear through MANY iterations to get to the final OE tire configuration. Mr. McGowan still believes they are the best tire in the wet so for you cross country drivers driving through rain on your way to the rally they are still held in high regard by some. But in the dry, the Bridgestones are superior.

Before heading to the track, look over your tires carefully. UMC is a big track with long straights enabling the GT’s to stretch their legs. Both the Goodyear and Bridgestone tires in the FGT sizes are “speed rated” tires. The Goodyear’s are (88Y) front and (103Y) rears while the Bridgestones are (101Y) front and (110Y) rear. The number in the parenthesis is the tire load index and indicates the Bridgestones are able to carry slightly higher loads per tire relative to the Goodyears. The important factor here is the (xxxY) in the rating. The “Y” in the parenthesis indicates that that specific tire has a speed rating from the manufacturer in excess of 186 mph (300 Km/h). So both the Goodyears and Bridgestones had high speed capability when new. It is not known how this capability changes over time. You must be the judge. It is unlikely the 05-06 GT’s will get anywhere near the 186 mph mark but it will probably be in the high 150’s for the advanced drivers. And probably higher than that for Nick in his 2017 with Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires. Look your tires over, know when they were made (the manufacture date code is molded into the side wall) and just drive within your comfort limits.

Now let’s answer some general information questions regarding the track format –

1. What time will the track be open for participants to show up? 7:00 AM. Understand it will take a little over an hour to drive from the Park City accommodations to the track. There is an early function planned for the GT group on Thursday evening but it is not a late night event (unless the beer/drinks/stories start flowing back at the hotel). Plan accordingly. The mandatory drivers meeting will be held at 7:30 AM sharp so we can get out on the track when it goes hot. Car numbers allowing track entrance for each of the three driver run groups will be distributed to the attendees following the meeting. If you do not make it to the drivers meeting you will not get car credentials to drive on the track. This mandatory meeting is no different than any other track event.

2. What time will the corner workers be at their stations and the track goes hot? Track is hot at 8:00 AM (no earlier due to noise restrictions) The first 20 minute session will be all run groups on the track to warm up and learn the track corners, where the corner workers are located and get comfortable in the track driving mode. It will be a standing yellow flag session and there will be no passing allowed. No formal lead/follow although it might be prudent to pick out an experienced driver and follow him/her. Each run group will have 30 minute sessions on a rotating basis starting at 8:30 AM up till lunch at noon.

3. There will be a “track out” person checking credentials and releasing cars onto the hot track. For the first time out on the track, this individual will collect the driver’s self-certifying tech sheets each driver will fill out regarding the condition of his vehicle. This form will be posted on the Forum prior to the event for drivers to download, print, sign and bring with them to the track event.

4. What time will the track go cold for lunch time and what time will it again go hot after lunch? 12:00 - 1:00 PM

5. What time will afternoon track hot time end? 5:00 PM.

6. What time do all participants have to leave the grounds? Doesn’t matter. They can sleep in their car if they want.

7. Due to the low humidity and high ambient temperatures at the track, driver hydration is a concern. Event coordinators will make available bottled water for the participants. It is important to drink water frequently.

8. Where are the bathrooms located? There are bathrooms basically everywhere. Both ends of the tower, the garages, the main entrance building, the ticket office, the kart center, the east and west garages…

9. Where will the group assemble for the early morning drivers meeting? Classroom space is in the main Grand Prix Tower upstairs. When arriving for the drivers meeting, please move spritely from the parking area to the upstairs classroom for the meeting. 7:30 sharp.

10. Will a UMC track representative be at the meeting to discuss track policies and flags? Yes.

11. What helmet policy is in effect? Helmets need to be SA2005 or newer. No motorcycle helmets are allowed. They must be “SA” helmets. UMP will have SA2005 helmets for rent for $20/day, but they are old and not great. How much is your head worth? New SA2015 helmets can be purchased for less than $300.

12. What driving attire is required of the drivers? Long pants, close toed shoes, short sleeved shirts are acceptable as are driver suits.

13. Are in-car fire extinguishers required? No.

14. Is fuel available for purchase on the grounds? And if so what octanes are available. Yes. 91, 98 and 100 octane unleaded. 110 octane leaded is available at the track.

15. Will Ford Performance supply any instructors to ride along with Novice drivers to help ease them into high performance driving? No. Novice drivers are encouraged to pair up with a willing Advanced Forum driver for coaching if they desire.

16. Will there be any track cars (FR500, Boss 302, etc.) to rent for owners who attend the rally and do not have their cars? No.

17. Will entrants have to fill in and sign a Tech Sheet certifying their car has passed a mechanical review. (Tires and brake fluid). Yes, collected by pit out worker on the first track session.

18. Can you purchase Track insurance? Yes. Talk to Ben Phillips (843-324-9599) www.theopentrack.com. Otherwise participants are 100% responsible for their own car.

19. What driver group(s) will be allowed to take passengers out on the track during that group’s time slot? Advanced and Intermediate level drivers are allowed to take passengers on the track with appropriate helmets. Novice drivers cannot take passengers for track rides. The only riders allowed with Novice drivers are identified Advance or Instructor drivers.
 
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Xcentric

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20. Will there be a selection of GT350Rs available at the track for purchase at MSRP with a track day of instruction and Reliable transport included?



Good stuff here Bill. Thank you. Even if the answer to 20 is "no."
 
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spartan

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Thanks for the Tips!

For those running Bridgestone tires. What is the recommended cold tire pressure front and rear? Knowing that we will be driving to the track the tires will have temp prior to going on the track.
 

GT Tech

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Aug 13, 2006
535
Kingman, Arizona
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I had the good fortune to spend a week at Ron's place back in 2006, working on his and other GTs. Not only did I eat very well, I had a Porsche Targa to run around with. The highlight of the week was riding with Ron. Having just retired from the GT program, I still had fond memories of riding with Mark M at the proving grounds, as well as the many hours driving GTs. I was supremely impressed with Ron's ability behind the wheel. Watching him at rallies since then has only solidified my trust in his abilities. I'm a "Nervous Nellie" when going fast unless I'm behind the wheel. There are 3 exceptions to that. Ron, Mark, & Chip are the exceptions. If you get the chance, ride with any of them. It will be an eye opener to the abilities of your GT. Not only that, they are great guys to just hang out with.
 

fjpikul

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Closed toe shoes that tie. Loafers may fall off
 

Indy GT

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There are a number of advanced level drivers who are happy to volunteer their coaching skills in a ride along capacity to the new drivers during the novice sessions. This will be discussed at the drivers meeting and pairings made.
As was stated earlier there will be a number of extremely qualified top tier advanced drivers attending UMC with our group. We have several NASA licensed drivers, several Ford program drivers who worked on the FGT design team and other advanced drivers with deep experience driving Ford products. With 20+ drivers in the Novice run group it is suggested these drivers seek the services of any of a number of qualified coaches in the advanced ranks. This will be discussed at the drivers meeting.

As several owners have inquired about “track insurance” (see Track Tip #3) Single Day Track Coverage is available thru theOpenTrack.com. Single event coverage costs for a vehicle value of $100,000 is $650 and for a $200,000 value at $1,150. Unforeseen things can and do happen on the track, especially if someone else is driving your car. Consider the liability carefully. We want everyone to have a safe and happy time on the track!:biggrin