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S592R

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SO here is the setting. You live in a semi-rural area of houses that are all on one plus acre lots. The jacka$$ next to you has not built a house on his 10 acre lot and has let the grass grow to over three feet tall (in violation of city ords.).

Your five year old son is playing in the back yard when he is chased by a 6-7 foot long poisonous snake. He safely makes the back porch but when you look at the snake it raises its head and opens its mouth at you. The snake makes no effort to leave and charges aggressively at anything around it (within 25 feet). You live in a rural area but within the city limits of a township which "prohibits the discharge of a firearm without permit."

Do you:

Kill the snake with an ax and risk getting bit by a snake whose girth is the size of your forearm's meatiest part.

Shoot the snake with your trusty .45 acp.

Kiss the snake since you're a tree hugger.

Tell your son that the back yard is now the snake's home.





What do you do? Yes this was an event at my home today.
 
Kill snake without using gun. Call animal control office and whatever county/ village office necessary, then call sheriff's office. Invite sheriff over for beer as well. Get to know county/village officials and in six months get property condemned and buy for a song. It's the democratic way. (Don't forget the errant cigarette butt that may accidentally cause a fire).
 
DPGT...from reading past posts as to what interests you, I would venture a guess that Rambo stopped by. :thumbsup
 
Personally I would "Shoot the snake with your trusty .45 acp." - then reload and drop another clip in the snake to make sure it's dead! :thumbsup

- I hate snakes -

I keep a small .410 off to the side just for this purpose. It was given to me by a local friend for cottonmouth's.

Regarding the grass you'll have to find a way to get it cut or burned as Dr Frank states. Once those snakes starting nesting in there they will be coming back for years!
 
Shoot the snake and ask questions later. Safety of family and friends takes precedence. I suspect the local law would not know, nor be too disturbed by your actions.
I've actually had to do the same, in a less rural area.
 
Kill snake however. If questioned by the snake's family (and I'm sure he has a home nearby) then say "what snake?"....that was thuinder or a car backfiring. Scenario 2. Place dead snake in backseat of next door propert owner's car in intense heat. Happy Father's Day!
 
My only hesitation would be in deciding which .45 to use.

Actually my first choice would be to unload my shotgun on him. Shooting a snake with a pistol is a little harder then one would think.

Next step would be to contact the property owner, explain the situation, and ask him politely to take care of his responsibilities as a property owner. If being polite didn't work, I'd send him the dead carcass of the snake.

Best Regards,
Waldo
 
We always used .22 revolvers with long rifle "bird shot" cartridges - they don't make noise any louder than a firecracker and they are easy to plaster a snake's head with at short range. Great fun!:banana
 
If the snake was really that aggressive, yeah, I'd do him with a .22 cal, and move on to the issue with the neighbor next.

What kinda' snake was it?

I'm at a point in my life where I don't want to kill anything these days... but sometimes, in a case like this, it become necessary.

mardyn
 
Just SHOOT IT, why ask.:bang

If one’s around, there are sure to be more.

Sawed-off 12 gauge works good, why mess with those little caliber things?:biggrin

If you are going to do a job, just get it done right the first time.

Then go for a drive in the GT.:banana
 
LOL! Thanks guys! I guess I am not as "militant" as I have been branded.

Here is what happened.

Said snake was a western diamond back. After looking at him and his "hostile intent" I decided that was "one cheeky bastard" and went inside to grab my xd .45. Loaded with frangible rounds (like the ones they shoot inside airplanes).

Two shots .. a body shot and a head tap. (old habits and all). Came inside called the Local PD (remember that I donate a vest or so a year to them) and told them about it. "no issue" was the return response. If we get a call we'll come over and investigate.

A few moments later it got around the neighborhood and I had to talk to a new neighbor who came by to chastise me. We ended up talking Corps (both Marines), Cars and guns ... all is good he was just wondering who the "whacko" in the "hood" was shooting since he had grandkids in the pool two blocks over.

next door grass is still an issue and when the wind drops down under 25 knots I think a visit from a "lightening storm" might be in store. I know that Johnson grass burns real hot ... and think that might not be a good issue ... maybe a trip to the lawyer is better.

But for right now .. the kid is safe, the snake is dead .. I'm on the look out for the rest of his "buddies". Have just bought a 22 pistol for eradication since the .45 makes a god awful loud report ... maybe I need to get my class three and just buy a suppressor. Oh well just rambling now. Anyway ... a 22 ruger with a laser sight. kind of cool in a minor way ... I think if you shot a guy with it ... it likely would just piss them off .. but a snake ... major league dead. If anyone really was curious about what a 45 does to a snake ... hamburger is the only word I need mention. Shame since it probably would have made a great pair of boots. :biggrin

Oh yeah Frank ... what is an animal control officer? Remember I said RURAL. I think they MIGHT have sent Bubba out and then I think he would have said "thems good eatens" ... so .... well you get my point. If we had a Bubba ... which I really do not want to know. :ack
 
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Spirit said:
Just SHOOT IT, why ask.:bang

If one’s around, there are sure to be more.

Sawed-off 12 gauge works good, why mess with those little caliber things?:biggrin

If you are going to do a job, just get it done right the first time.

Then go for a drive in the GT.:banana
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That's the Spirit! Texans always think Big! :thumbsup
 
Dont shoot snakes with fmg rounds snakes are hard to kill the head needs to come off.
While stationed on camp pendelton I had a snake under my jeep and we shot it with a clip of 45 acp and a short mag of .223 and the snake was still alive.

Ended up I put a blank in my m-16 and blew his head off with just the blast. Rattlers can strike about 1/3 of there body lenght so be careful.
As far as dischrging a firearm in the city Make sure you over emphize the fact you feared for life and as a last resort fired it is legal to protect yourself.

I shot my nebors (sp) dog after it bit me and nothing happened but thats a differant story.:willy
 
todd said:
Dont shoot snakes with fmg rounds snakes are hard to kill the head needs to come off.
While stationed on camp pendelton I had a snake under my jeep and we shot it with a clip of 45 acp and a short mag of .223 and the snake was still alive.

Ended up I put a blank in my m-16 and blew his head off with just the blast. Rattlers can strike about 1/3 of there body lenght so be careful.
As far as dischrging a firearm in the city Make sure you over emphize the fact you feared for life and as a last resort fired it is legal to protect yourself.

I shot my nebors (sp) dog after it bit me and nothing happened but thats a differant story.:willy
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I knew there was a reason I liked you Todd. :biggrin The FMG pretty much took the top off his head. Remember .. body shot then a head tap. I would say the head shot was from about four feet away while the body shot was from ten feet. It was a Soprano's quality moment ... :lol
 
Every county must have an Animal Control Office with accompanying officer. This is to track things like rabies, plague, etc. Look it up in the local phonebook under county stuff. Hey, it's free, you pay for it with your taxes!

As an aside, even a little nip of venom is very, very, very bad and can casuse finger, toes, peckers, etc. to fall off. Rattlers aren't usually so aggressive, so maybe you need to look for a nest around the house.

Herpetologist Frank

As another aside, it is stated in the medical literature that a stun gun (electric) current can be used to negate the venom in a bite. This was noted from people in Africa who would apply DC current to bites with no ill effect after the bite. Not exactly mainstream medicine, but can be done.
 
fjpikul said:
Every county must have an Animal Control Office with accompanying officer. This is to track things like rabies, plague, etc. Look it up in the local phonebook under county stuff. Hey, it's free, you pay for it with your taxes!

As an aside, even a little nip of venom is very, very, very bad and can casuse finger, toes, peckers, etc. to fall off. Rattlers aren't usually so aggressive, so maybe you need to look for a nest around the house.

Herpetologist Frank

As another aside, it is stated in the medical literature that a stun gun (electric) current can be used to negate the venom in a bite. This was noted from people in Africa who would apply DC current to bites with no ill effect after the bite. Not exactly mainstream medicine, but can be done.
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Hey Guys I just found a new use for my TAZER! :rofl

Uhhh Frank .... I know if a Diamond Back bites me on the pecker ..I'm a gonner. :lol
 
Snakes, like brown recluse spiders, like to hide in small dark places. Many times people don't realize they are in your pants laying on the floor or in a sleeping bag. Have seen many crotch shots at autopsy. Hmmm, maybe Stormcrotch could learn a lesson here, James Bond style.
 
:lol
 
fjpikul said:
Snakes, like brown recluse spiders, like to hide in small dark places. Many times people don't realize they are in your pants laying on the floor or in a sleeping bag. Have seen many crotch shots at autopsy. Hmmm, maybe Stormcrotch could learn a lesson here, James Bond style.
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let's see Doc..... That just dropped you to the bottom of ther list for sure....:bored
 
fjpikul said:
Have seen many crotch shots at autopsy.
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There is something disturbing in that statement Frank ... not quite sure what it is yet .. but it is troubling. Maybe you should start a website .. it worked for SuperB. :biggrin
 
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