No more repairing your own car (or modifying)?
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twobjshelbys
GT Owner
Didn't they try this a few years ago? SEMA has a pretty good lobby too.
The bottom line is that the dealer can already refuse warranty work if it can be shown a owner modification caused or contributed the failure.
The bottom line is that the dealer can already refuse warranty work if it can be shown a owner modification caused or contributed the failure.
TO AWSUM
Ford GT Owner
Another thought is if they win the copyright fight, will Congress then force the manufacturers to support the vehicle software for the life of the vehicle even if that is 100 years like some of the present collector cars? I think the manufacturers may be going down a slippery slope with this argument.
Never happen. Would have a crushing effect on the global economy if you could no longer alter your car in any way. Could you imagine the people that would be out of a job? And 9.9 out of 10 car owners would never vote for this, and all the people making these decisions are going to be automobile owners.
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gtinmyblood
GT Owner
I guess living in an area where cars, particularly "gas guzzling" performance cars are often portrayed as evil earth killers and definitely politically incorrect, I can see this as a possibility.
I don't think the manufacturers really care one way or another what you do with your car, as long as you don't drag them into court trying to hold them responsible when you blow up, ruin or otherwise destroy it. Or kill someone with it. Manufacturers are rightfully concerned that the increase in technical complexity of their vehicle systems is both a safety and warranty issue. You're talking about ECMs that can control 100+ million operations per second, which now frequently include stuff like collision avoidance, distance maintenance, lane control, etc. Stakes are a lot higher than Billy Bob tinkering with his carb.
TO AWSUM
Ford GT Owner
It's what average car buyers are interested in. Cars are basic transportation for the vast majority of car buyers, and interest in enhanced electronic safety applies across all generations.
From just yesterday...
http://news.investors.com/technolog...-powers-car-buying-auto-safety-number-one.htm
Car makers will build what customers buy.
I'm looking at replacing my daily driver. Finding an acceptable 3 pedal car is a challenge. I'd appreciate any suggestions. My requirements: 3 pedals. Not German (I'm annoyed at how expensive they are to keep going). Also, as I live in Minnesota, (and on top of a hill) - something that it is not abysmal in the snow. I'm currently driving a Mini Cooper S. It now has 65,000 miles. Since the beginning of the year, it has been in the shop 3 times - each time the repairs have been about $1500.
Thoughts?
PL510*Jeff
Well-known member
I am still waiting see "whom" owns the recorded data in the current mobile electronics rolling stock.
And the legal, or not, transfer or down load of that data to data bases unknown.
Someday it would be nice to know just how much of the car I really own.
And the legal, or not, transfer or down load of that data to data bases unknown.
Someday it would be nice to know just how much of the car I really own.
TO AWSUM
Ford GT Owner
The up side of self-driving cars is I'll still be able to safely take my car out shopping for groceries when I'm 90+ and can't see or hear anymore.
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TO AWSUM
Ford GT Owner
But not the data, that belongs to the manufacturer, law enforcement and insurance companies.
TO AWSUM
Ford GT Owner
Don't they need a search warrant to enter your car like entering your home and isn't the data inside your car, so how can they get it without a search warrant?
If you can wait until very early next year, Focus RS. 3 pedals, AWD, lotta HP. Should be a whole bunch of fun.
*edit* Technically it will be German. Gonna be built there and sent here, but a lot of U.S staff ran that program.