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Kayvan

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Talent can be delayed, but never denied.
 

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That LH kid is pretty good. Look what he did last year. He almost won his first year in F1 and he wins in his 2nd year. This speaks for itself.
 

cmoody32

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Great race. Did anyone exactly see what happened to Glock? He must have spun to loose such momentum. If he did not spin, then he slowed down to allow a Hamilton championship.

I was hoping Masa would get it. Oh well. Masa could have been much higher in the points if he did not mess up in 2 or 3 races earlier this year.
 

Neilda

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Great race. Did anyone exactly see what happened to Glock? He must have spun to loose such momentum. If he did not spin, then he slowed down to allow a Hamilton championship.

I was hoping Masa would get it. Oh well. Masa could have been much higher in the points if he did not mess up in 2 or 3 races earlier this year.
Glock did not pit for wet weather/intermediate tires (Lewis did pit and change), it started to rain more heavily and both Toyotas (Glock was piloting one) started to lose traction. It was a gamble from the McClaren Hamilton team, one that paid off.

Worth remembering that Masa one last year by a single point, as a Brit I'm obviously delighted that Lewis won.
 

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Glock did not pit for wet weather/intermediate tires (Lewis did pit and change), it started to rain more heavily and both Toyotas (Glock was piloting one) started to lose traction. It was a gamble from the McClaren Hamilton team, one that paid off.

Worth remembering that Masa one last year by a single point, as a Brit I'm obviously delighted that Lewis won.
:banana
 

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Glock did not pit for wet weather/intermediate tires (Lewis did pit and change), it started to rain more heavily and both Toyotas (Glock was piloting one) started to lose traction. It was a gamble from the McClaren Hamilton team, one that paid off.

Worth remembering that Masa one last year by a single point, as a Brit I'm obviously delighted that Lewis won.
Kimi won the WDC last year not Masa.:wink
 

cmoody32

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Glock did not pit for wet weather/intermediate tires (Lewis did pit and change), it started to rain more heavily and both Toyotas (Glock was piloting one) started to lose traction. It was a gamble from the McClaren Hamilton team, one that paid off.

Worth remembering that Masa one last year by a single point, as a Brit I'm obviously delighted that Lewis won.
Kimi one by 1 point last year.

I know that Glock was not on wet tires but he seemed to keep traction until the last turns. There was not a good view as to how or why he was passed by Vettle or Hamilton. It was a big gamble and it did pay off.:cheers
 

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Glock was on dry tires in the rain and ran a faster lap on the last lap than Trulli who was the only other driver on dry tires at the time. He didn't pull over for Hamilton. He just didn't have the traction.

Hamilton (and Alonso) gifted the championship to Ferrari last year in the last two races. I'm glad McLaren got to redeem themselves this year - especially in light of the absurd calls of the stewards throughout the course of this season - especially in Belgium.

As for the post above equating Lewis Hamilton's rear ender on Kimi in the pits to Schumacher intentionally attempting to run someone off the road in the last race of the season ... someone must really be a Lewis hater to make that illogical leap. Hamilton was looking at his steering wheel settings, his team did not tell him the pit exit was closed, and he absolutely did himself no favors by running into Kimi. No way it was intentional.

Without that gaffe he finishes that race in second at the worst... which would have meant that he would have had a 15 point lead going into the Brazil race (instead of 7) (or more considering that he wouldn't have been given the grid spot penalty for the next race) and the driver's championship would have already been decided.

The FIA/stewards handed out some really boneheaded penalties to Lewis (Belgium) and others (Bourdais to give Massa a point he didn't deserve) this year, but even they weren't willing to say that Lewis did anything other than lose his situational awareness in the excitement of exiting the pits when he hit Kimi.

Should they have kicked Nico Rosberg out of the championship this year too? He rear ended a car in precisely the same manner in the same incident. Or is there some reason for a double standard?
 

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Hamilton Rocks! He won the Championship and that Pussy Cat Doll!
 

Neilda

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Kimi one by 1 point last year.

I know that Glock was not on wet tires but he seemed to keep traction until the last turns. There was not a good view as to how or why he was passed by Vettle or Hamilton. It was a big gamble and it did pay off.:cheers

Sorry, quite right, Kimi Raikkonen won by one point (from Lewis in his first year) - I got confused with the Ferrari thing!
 

JimF

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Lewis

I believe that Lewis is an amazing driver given his results last year and this year. I am the sort that does not really "root" for one team or person over another. I like to see a great game/race regardless of who wins. I always hope the best team/person wins as they deserve to.

In this case, both Masa and Hamilton had their low points during a long season. I believe the best driver won. I am glad that the officals didn't prevent the best driver from winning. I agree that they made many questionable calls during the course of the year.

As for Michael S. I can only say that I never enjoyed a win by him from the race that he crashed into Dammon Hill in the last race of the season with Hill only needing one point more than Michael to win the drivers title. Michael made a bad mistake and hit the inside wall and drove back onto the track and into the side of Hill, damaging Hill's car. All of that to win the title. That action showed NO CLASS by Michael. He paid NO penalty for that action. The stewards have improved some since then as that would not be acceptable today but they made some strange calls this year.

All in all, I believe the best driver won this year.

Jim
 

Neilda

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Remember the Schumacher incident at Monaco in 2006 where he claimed his car locked up after running wide at the Rascasse hairpin and then stalled, making it impossible for him to get out of the way of other drivers trying to qualify?

:thumbsdow

He quite liked to fight down and dirty - but undoubtedly a great driver too.



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uCJt9lGmxFM
 

cmoody32

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All in all, I believe the best driver won this year.

Jim
Under the current scoring system yes. However, if they change to a medal system (gold, silver, & Bronze), then Masa would have won with the most wins.
 

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Wow!!!!!! What a race that was !! Hope you all got to see it . If not check it out on F1 .com
CONGRATS TO LEWIS HAMILTON !! 2009 F1 WORLD CHAMPION
 
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MK2_GT

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That was the craziest ending to an F1 race, maybe ever.
 

fordcapri

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Glock was on dry tires in the rain and ran a faster lap on the last lap than Trulli who was the only other driver on dry tires at the time. He didn't pull over for Hamilton. He just didn't have the traction.

Hamilton (and Alonso) gifted the championship to Ferrari last year in the last two races. I'm glad McLaren got to redeem themselves this year - especially in light of the absurd calls of the stewards throughout the course of this season - especially in Belgium.

As for the post above equating Lewis Hamilton's rear ender on Kimi in the pits to Schumacher intentionally attempting to run someone off the road in the last race of the season ... someone must really be a Lewis hater to make that illogical leap. Hamilton was looking at his steering wheel settings, his team did not tell him the pit exit was closed, and he absolutely did himself no favors by running into Kimi. No way it was intentional.

Without that gaffe he finishes that race in second at the worst... which would have meant that he would have had a 15 point lead going into the Brazil race (instead of 7) (or more considering that he wouldn't have been given the grid spot penalty for the next race) and the driver's championship would have already been decided.

The FIA/stewards handed out some really boneheaded penalties to Lewis (Belgium) and others (Bourdais to give Massa a point he didn't deserve) this year, but even they weren't willing to say that Lewis did anything other than lose his situational awareness in the excitement of exiting the pits when he hit Kimi.

Should they have kicked Nico Rosberg out of the championship this year too? He rear ended a car in precisely the same manner in the same incident. Or is there some reason for a double standard?
I totally agree with what you say, and overall Lewis Hamilton was the best driver and deserved to win the title.
 

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Wow!!!!!! What a race that was !! Hope you all got to see it . If not check it out on F1 .com
CONGRATS TO LEWIS HAMILTON !! 2009 F1 WORLD CHAMPION
Oh man!!!! I taped it ............You just spoiled it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .. Just joking....:biggrin thanks for the update,,,,,, Ah.......who's this Hamilton Lewis ?? .........................:bored
 

Doc

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Congrats to Lewis Hamilton.

Going forward, it seems to me that many changes are occurring in F-1. And can these budgets survive the global economic climate?
:confused
 

CJ428

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Hamilton is a very aggressive driver.This is why he's the champ!
 

kmillen

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I am a fan of just about every form of motorsport except Formula 1. I have a great respect for the engineers that build the cars and the drivers that pilot them but I find F1 too boring. Many of the races I have watched recently have simply been games of "follow the leader."

With that being said, I did happen to catch this race and I did find it very exciting. I really don't have a favorite F1 driver and to be honest, I was surprised to see that many of the guys I used to follow are not even driving anymore...Yea, it's been that long since I've watched...

At the end of the day, Lewis Hamilton is a fantastic driver. Did anyone see the Top Gear episode where he raced the cheap car around the Top Gear track? In wet conditions and with gear oil on the track he was faster than most of the other F1 drivers who ran the track in dry conditions.