Ford is stepping up in the electric vehicle market!


Awsum GT

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GKW05GT

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Our 05/06 GT was one of the last analog super cars and our new GT maybe the beginning of the end of total gas powered supercars.
 
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Awsum GT

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I hope you are wrong. It's one thing to add electric cars/trucks to the line up but I hope they continue to build performance vehicles as well.
 

GKW05GT

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Me too
 

Ed Sims

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Lithium, cobalt & manganese (needed for the production of batteries) mining/processing uses so much energy & produces a lot of CO2. Why is Ford going that route instead of cleaner energy? And what will we do with all these old batteries? More energy for that answer for sure. Hydrogen anyone?

Ed
 

zach05855

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The old batteries still have lots of life left after they are removed from cars.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-27/where-3-million-electric-vehicle-batteries-will-go-when-they-retire

Embrace the future, EV's are coming. Received Jaguar I-Pace a month ago, loving it for daily commuting.
 

Stef

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Thinking the same that Hydrogen is the way to go!
 

PeteK

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Hydrogen has LOTS of major technical problems. I won't rehash them all here, but for starters, there is no infrastructure for it anywhere. Not pipelines, not tanks, nothing. Hydrogen for fuel cells will become viable only when liquid fuels can be used in the fuel cells efficiently. There have been many attempts at developing such technology over half a century, but none of them have succeeded. Progress in batteries, while slow and plodding, has been faster.

But the virtues of electric drive for performance and many other applications in vehicles are commanding. Future supercars, whether they derive their energy from batteries, fuel cells, internal combustion, or some combination, will have electric drivetrains.
 

PeteK

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I also noted that Elon Musk has been hyping electric heavy trucks again, as well as driverless cars, even claiming that he will have key regulatory approvals by 2020. He's smoking too much weed. Any lawyers, lobbyists, insurance executives, or political operatives on this forum can tell you that is years away. TSLA is continuing its downtrend. If you're a short seller, now's the time to pile on.
 
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fjpikul

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They will ship all the old batteries to California as it drops into the ocean and the rest of the US is finally rid of it.
 
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Brombear

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The big advantage of Electric is the efficency of the motors, which is around 90%. It’s Design is simple and understood and needs not much space. And boy does it offer gobs of newtonmeters.

The combustion engine peaks around 30% and is a complex beast that needs a lot of space and adds a lot of complexity in every aspect of the car Design and building process.
 

Ed Sims

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Hyundai, Toyota & Honda sell hydrogen powered cars to the public. My friend just drove his hydrogen Honda from SoCal to Sacramento & back. The refueling infrastructure is slowing being built. It's cleaner than electric (again: not just vehicle operation but from dust to dust).

Ed
 

Roadtrip

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I've always felt Hybrid is the best of both worlds, excellent performance and it certainly helps with the lackluster electric charging network in rural midwest... the fear must be in the excess number of complicated components or additional cost to make it viable.

I remember reading an article in which the author was describing how to achieve a better carbon footprint (in direct regards to buying an all electric car) in the end if you want to have a better carbon footprint, buy a used car not a new electric, the physical resources have already been spent.
 

Gene Cassone

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electric not a good long term option IMO, if we went entirely to electric cars, would we have adequate production for the need? unless there is abundant, renewable clean supply, which I do not think there will be in near future, not a long term solution. Hydrogen for now looks better option, though will take time for infrastructure.
 

Awsum GT

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remember many new homes are installing solar power and they are charging their cars with this stored energy.
 

Brombear

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enough electricity can be had If there would be a global grid of renewable energy. Somewhere on our planet there is always sunlight or wind blowing However we are far away from that solution, mostly because some countries strategic goals trying to be as energy Independent as possible and of course the technical challenge to build the energy lines and renewable energy producers where it makes the most sense (some of these areas closer to the equator aren‘t politically stable)

I am not informed reasonable about hydrogen. Is it true that it only makes sense to do it with high temperature solar power ?
 

franimal007

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Hydro could be at every post office if they really wanted to do it. Convert all post office cars, save US a ton of money, and set it up for us non union people to fill up our cars at the post offices. There, just like Ben Carson, solved healthcare, ("give everyone a medical savings account"), infrastructure almost solved. Anyway, not a fan of a bunch of batteries in cars, ask any rescue worker about that.
 

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Yeah, I am grateful we value energy independence first and foremost.
 
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STORMCAT

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And this...
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The April 1st Edition.