Ford GT in clasifieds

[bonehead]

Looks like there just isn't that much out there. Even Shelby is down to 7 most of which are full customs which IMO are better deals than doing it piecemeal.

I guess scour all your sources everyday, several times a day and be ready to pounce the second a bargain comes up. :cool

I do, probably more than I should There are actually quite a few cars out there, but all but maybe one are sub 10,000 mile examples in the hands of the dealers I had previously mentioned that have no grasp of the current market, i.e. overpriced. There are two currently on the market at somewhat more reasonable prices, both with some downsides even before a PPI. Still considering them, but neither are white/blue stripe

 

[Sinovac]

You should throw a hook out and see what you get. Post what you think is a fair cash price for the car you want. Some owners may want to sell but don't want to go through the trouble of listing a car and dealing with tire kickers. Many are professionals here with busy schedules who couldn't be bothered. I have purchased many things like this, including my Kirkham Cobra. The level of interest you generate will be the best barometer of a fair market price.

I do, probably more than I should There are actually quite a few cars out there, but all but maybe one are sub 10,000 mile examples in the hands of the dealers I had previously mentioned that have no grasp of the current market, i.e. overpriced. There are two currently on the market at somewhat more reasonable prices, both with some downsides even before a PPI. Still considering them, but neither are white/blue stripe

 

[Fast Freddy]

Maybe the stock market is affecting he pricing. As the portfolio increases in price, the buyers are willing to pay more and the sellers are less eager to sell.

i agree.

but also keep in mind if somebody is short on cash and see's an investment opportunity that he thinks is gonna allow him to buy back 2 GT's a couple years from now then he might want to take that gamble....

 

[Shark01]

You should throw a hook out and see what you get. Post what you think is a fair cash price for the car you want. Some owners may want to sell but don't want to go through the trouble of listing a car and dealing with tire kickers. Many are professionals here with busy schedules who couldn't be bothered. I have purchased many things like this, including my Kirkham Cobra. The level of interest you generate will be the best barometer of a fair market price.

Bonehead, I think this is a good idea. What are you willing to pay under what conditions.

In my case, I would be in the $170k price area, would like a yellow (preferred), white, or red 4 option car with up to 10k miles with a clean carfax. Bad news is it appears to be impossible given the asking prices I see. Are the asks inflated? Hard to tell, but unlike the Murcielago market, GTs are selling.

 

[shelbyelite]

Bonehead has already posted before what he is looking for. So probably no need to have him do it multiple times.

As for the car in chicago, it had a bad carfax. Had a replaced door and various other parts. So, "good deal"??? I will let you guys decide on that one.

Prices will go up and down. Prices have been up lately, but I think a lot of it has to do with not many cars being on the market. That will change. It always does. They will go up and down I can assure you that, but the days of sub $150k low mile cars I think are a thing of the past. Only time will tell......

 

[bonehead]

You should throw a hook out and see what you get. Post what you think is a fair cash price for the car you want. Some owners may want to sell but don't want to go through the trouble of listing a car and dealing with tire kickers. Many are professionals here with busy schedules who couldn't be bothered. I have purchased many things like this, including my Kirkham Cobra. The level of interest you generate will be the best barometer of a fair market price.

Interesting idea. But throwing a number out there may prevent some from offering up their car that I might otherwise make 'exceptions' for due to condition, miles, mods (or lack thereof), etc.

Bonehead, I think this is a good idea. What are you willing to pay under what conditions.

In my case, I would be in the $170k price area, would like a yellow (preferred), white, or red 4 option car with up to 10k miles with a clean carfax. Bad news is it appears to be impossible given the asking prices I see. Are the asks inflated? Hard to tell, but unlike the Murcielago market, GTs are selling.

You can definitely find a sub 10K mile red in the upper portion of that price range from a dealer. Perhaps lower from private party. Whites are fewer and far between. The ones available are ultra low miles, heavily modded, or just plain overpriced for what they are. I've only seen one or two yellows since I started my search and getting a clean one in the 170's will likely be impossible.

Bonehead has already posted before what he is looking for. So probably no need to have him do it multiple times.

As for the car in chicago, it had a bad carfax. Had a replaced door and various other parts. So, "good deal"??? I will let you guys decide on that one.

Prices will go up and down. Prices have been up lately, but I think a lot of it has to do with not many cars being on the market. That will change. It always does. They will go up and down I can assure you that, but the days of sub $150k low mile cars I think are a thing of the past. Only time will tell......

Right. I'm not going to reiterate my want list. I don't want to pollute another thread with it. Suffice it to say, I'm pretty open to most colors, higher miles. Just not big on powertrain mods. If someone has a car for sale, just let me know details and price. Simple as that.

 

[AHudson]

Great discussion. Far as 'my' car on the original discussion which is WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE , I was also in the hunt for a 'driven' car. On any day it seems I could've had my choice of sub 10k mile cars. Those are fantastic pieces for those who want that. My goal was to drive. To get in the car, without hesitation, and take it to the lake if I darn well felt like it. And I did, and I have, and its been awesome. I'd do that for basically ANY trip in which the GT was called upon.

For me, and certainly not for everyone, I wanted a car I could use. I've got a couple garage queens as it is, so adding another static trophy was not on my list of desires. The awesome thing about a GT is that it can be either. In an odd distinction of this market, I'd contend that the 'driven' cars are actually more rare than the overly-protected ones.

No matter what, have fun shopping.

 

[roketman]

Did you car sell yet?

 

[AHudson]

Did you car sell yet?

No cash and no titles have been exchanged yet.

Funny thing: the more emails and calls, the more the GT is looking at me weird, like "Tell me again why you're doing this?!?"

 

[2112]

Shark and Bone probably already saw this;

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/s...-Mecum-Auction&p=328146&viewfull=1#post328146

Of course Blue is an awesome color. :wink

 

[bonehead]

Shark and Bone probably already saw this;

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/s...-Mecum-Auction&p=328146&viewfull=1#post328146

Of course Blue is an awesome color. :wink

Ha. Yup, saw it. I'm wary of any cars even with a pulley and tune. Definitely not looking for an upgraded SC or TT.
Chatted with Marv again today. Black one on his website is sold. Most of the cars he sells don't even make it to the website.

 

[2112]

Hmm, I would venture that a lot of mildly upgraded powered cars are not abused in any way. A lot of us make these mods immediately and don't beat on the cars.

Also, I think some guys mod the cars and then take em back to stock in preparation of selling.

 

[bonehead]

Hmm, I would venture that a lot of mildly upgraded powered cars are not abused in any way. A lot of us make these mods immediately and don't beat on the cars.

Also, I think some guys mod the cars and then take em back to stock in preparation of selling.

I completely agree with you. But with more power comes more unintentional wear. I realize the GT motor is very robust and a simple pulley/tune is likely not diminishing the lifespan of the powertrain by any significant amount, but I don't have any desire for more power out of this car, so why risk it? I've done the heavily modified car thing. I'm over it in a very big way. I intend on keeping the GT, driving it, maybe taking it to the track a few times, and eventually handing it down to my 2 month old son

As for those that covertly reverse mods before a sale, simple mods may be easy to mask, but I fully intend to get a thorough PPI from one of the 'experts' regardless of where or who the car is coming from. I imagine it would be hard not to leave tracks after removing a TT setup.

 

[BlackICE]

As for those that covertly reverse mods before a sale, simple mods may be easy to mask, but I fully intend to get a thorough PPI from one of the 'experts' regardless of where or who the car is coming from. I imagine it would be hard not to leave tracks after removing a TT setup.

:agree: some TT setups have holes cut into the belly pans and a white one in FL has BIG holes cut into the rear fasica for exhaust pipes. But a simple pulley and tune, or Whipple un-installed would be hard detect. I have read the Ford dealers can tell if you stock tune was ever changed ever if it was changed back to stock. So that would be the best bet to discover modded car.

 

[shelbyelite]

We have seen many mildly modified cars returned to stock, but I have yet to come across a TT that was reverted back to stock. That would be very difficult to do without leaving evidence that it was returned to stock.

 

[dbk]

I honestly don't see the point in disqualifying a car because it had a pulley and tune. Instead of thinking of it like it's a GT with more power, think of it like all stock GTs just came with way less than they could have under OEM requirements. The car was engineered to make way more power because they knew owners would do it immediately, but delivered to make sure owners didn't kill themselves left and right. During the brief period where they considered re-engineering the car to continue selling it, it was going to be delivered with essentially what is the FRPP pulley and tune kit. I'd say there's an extremely low probability that there is a single durability test that a pulley/tune car wouldn't pass that a stock one would. Ford had cars making much more horsepower than delivered that ended up with many more miles than 98% of GT owners will ever put on (and that I know, only Jeff has definitely exceeded, with Ralphie nearing those miles). The odds of a regular owning exceeding that mileage and having something happen on the world's most de-tuned factory engine are next to none if the mods were from a competent shop. The odds of a regular owner doing something worse to the car than what the Ford cars went (go) through is literally none. Those cars exist just to be punished by the company employees, which is illustrated by the fact that virtually every single one crunched multiple or all body panels, some of them repeatedly.

Let's be realistic, Torrie's car is a tick away from 50,000 miles, the car has been turbo'd from the beginning, and it's made over 1000 for it's whole life with countless dyno runs, mile runs, etc. If you're disqualifying something like a 600 rwhp GT that has 6,000 miles and are trying to stay below the money that lower mileage showroom stock cars bring, you're limiting your market severely to the point where you may be waiting forever. A great deal of the cars that get some miles on them have been modified.

 

[bonehead]

I honestly don't see the point in disqualifying a car because it had a pulley and tune. Instead of thinking of it like it's a GT with more power, think of it like all stock GTs just came with way less than they could have under OEM requirements. The car was engineered to make way more power because they knew owners would do it immediately, but delivered to make sure owners didn't kill themselves left and right. During the brief period where they considered re-engineering the car to continue selling it, it was going to be delivered with essentially what is the FRPP pulley and tune kit. I'd say there's an extremely low probability that there is a single durability test that a pulley/tune car wouldn't pass that a stock one would. Ford had cars making much more horsepower than delivered that ended up with many more miles than 98% of GT owners will ever put on (and that I know, only Jeff has definitely exceeded, with Ralphie nearing those miles). The odds of a regular owning exceeding that mileage and having something happen on the world's most de-tuned factory engine are next to none if the mods were from a competent shop. The odds of a regular owner doing something worse to the car than what the Ford cars went (go) through is literally none. Those cars exist just to be punished by the company employees, which is illustrated by the fact that virtually every single one crunched multiple or all body panels, some of them repeatedly.

Let's be realistic, Torrie's car is a tick away from 50,000 miles, the car has been turbo'd from the beginning, and it's made over 1000 for it's whole life with countless dyno runs, mile runs, etc. If you're disqualifying a 600 rwhp GT that has 6,000 miles and are trying to stay below the money that lower mileage showroom stock cars bring, you're limiting your market severely to the point where you may be waiting forever. A great deal of the cars that get some miles on them have been modified.

Had to look back at what I wrote. Never said I'd disqualify it completely. Just prefer a stock car. And I did acknowledge the fact that these motors are as stout as a brick s*ithouse where a simple pulley/tune would unlikely cause any significant accelerated wear....ok, didn't use those words exactly But given 100% equivalent cars with the difference lying only in a pulley/tune vs. stock, I'll take a stock one. That being said, there are usually other mods/cosmetics/price issues that may outweigh the presence of the 'minor' power upgrade. TT is still definitely out, regardless of how many miles Torrie has on his GT

 

[Xcentric]

I am in awe of the depth of knowledge on this forum.

 

[KJD]

I am in awe of the depth of knowledge on this forum.

Best auto board. Ever. Period.

 

[Superfly]

Best auto board. Ever. Period.

^^^^ THIS!!! X a billion.