SEMA : JBA Headers & exhaust
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dbtgt
One lucky SOB to own a GT
BlackICE
GT Owner
From the pictures it seem that some of the welds are not as clean as they could be. Also this example must have been taken off of the test car. It appears to have been heat cycled many times. Anything else that could have been done better?
THamonGT
GT
Mase
GT Owner
From my angle, it appears they are MIG welded (why it looks so rough). Now days most 'works of art' are in fact TIG welded.
- Aug 25, 2006
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You share one of the points that I elected not to address.
First of all; why would one place a used system on display? Knowing what it takes to install such a system creates several questions. Then add to this; IMO when presenting product at a show such as SEMA I expect to see the best a company has to offer and if this is the best I am not lining up at the door.
Takes care
Shadowman
Jason Watt
Had both, sold both
The muffler looks cool - but it must be more quiet than the Borla for me to go for it, since I got the headers allready...
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Hey guys, thanks for your comments. I’m Steve Hill with Xtreme Motor Sports / JBA and a Heritage owner (myheritage).
Just wanted to let you know why the system looked “rough.” This is a prototype and still under development! These are the same headers and cats I was testing on my car at the 2007 Rally in Newport Beach. As I told some of you then, we are also in the process of developing a much lighter muffler, with a deep, healthy sound.
I had a choice to make: to bring the prototypes to SEMA, or forget it until next year.
So, I brought them to SEMA so you could see it, touch it and let us know what you think.
(Even Chip Foose has brought products that are still in development to SEMA for feedback.)
It takes a lot time, effort and money to develop a system like this. Jay Biddle and the engineers at JBA Racing make the best performing headers in the industry. So, please understand, this not the finished product that would go into your car.
Now we are looking at different coatings that can be utilized. My thoughts on it are a silver or titanium metallic ceramic coating. I have thought about chroming or polishing the headers but my experience has been that the chrome turns blue and the stainless turns brown. Not exactly what I want under my hood. What do you think?
At the Rally, some of you said that the rear-cover needed to be raised after a good run because the heat from the engine warps the vent moldings. This issue is one that I thought needed to be addressed.
Our main objectives are to increase rear-wheel hp by over 100 on a hot, summer afternoon, to create a muffler that was light and sounded good and to reduce the heat in the engine compartment.
We accomplished the hp increase on my GT. When first tested, my car was putting out 488 rwhp. After the install of the headers, cats, muffler and tune, we got 592 rwhp @ 5,937 rpm. This was done in the afternoons of July thru September when it was hotter ‘n hell outside, so I would know that you’d have the same results on a hot summer afternoon. We did 3 dyno runs to get the engine heat-soaked and get the tires heated up, then recorded the stats on the 4th run. The reason the rpm was only at 5,937 is because the dyno has a limit of 160 mph. These statistics were in the flyer at JBA’s booth at SEMA.
Just wanted to let you know why the system looked “rough.” This is a prototype and still under development! These are the same headers and cats I was testing on my car at the 2007 Rally in Newport Beach. As I told some of you then, we are also in the process of developing a much lighter muffler, with a deep, healthy sound.
I had a choice to make: to bring the prototypes to SEMA, or forget it until next year.
So, I brought them to SEMA so you could see it, touch it and let us know what you think.
(Even Chip Foose has brought products that are still in development to SEMA for feedback.)
It takes a lot time, effort and money to develop a system like this. Jay Biddle and the engineers at JBA Racing make the best performing headers in the industry. So, please understand, this not the finished product that would go into your car.
Now we are looking at different coatings that can be utilized. My thoughts on it are a silver or titanium metallic ceramic coating. I have thought about chroming or polishing the headers but my experience has been that the chrome turns blue and the stainless turns brown. Not exactly what I want under my hood. What do you think?
At the Rally, some of you said that the rear-cover needed to be raised after a good run because the heat from the engine warps the vent moldings. This issue is one that I thought needed to be addressed.
Our main objectives are to increase rear-wheel hp by over 100 on a hot, summer afternoon, to create a muffler that was light and sounded good and to reduce the heat in the engine compartment.
We accomplished the hp increase on my GT. When first tested, my car was putting out 488 rwhp. After the install of the headers, cats, muffler and tune, we got 592 rwhp @ 5,937 rpm. This was done in the afternoons of July thru September when it was hotter ‘n hell outside, so I would know that you’d have the same results on a hot summer afternoon. We did 3 dyno runs to get the engine heat-soaked and get the tires heated up, then recorded the stats on the 4th run. The reason the rpm was only at 5,937 is because the dyno has a limit of 160 mph. These statistics were in the flyer at JBA’s booth at SEMA.
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- Aug 25, 2006
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dbtgt
One lucky SOB to own a GT
Shadowman, I think his stated HP increase included a tune - at least that's the way it reads to me. Still, IMO seems like a big number for exhaust and tune only as well.
- Aug 25, 2006
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Thank you for the clarification; with a good tune I would say this seems more in line
Thank you for pointing me properly into the wind
Takes care
Shadowman
SYCO GT
GT Owner
Yes, I sat next to Steve at the Forum Dinner at the Palm.
If I recall correctly, the tune they used shared roughly equal credit with the exhaust, cat converters, and headers for the 100-105 rwhp stated gain, I believe it was also achieved at around 6000 rpm.
Of course, Steve will probably further clarify, I am just going from my memory, and was distracted by a huge and delicious lobster that I shared with Todd, as well as a tasty steak.
If I recall correctly, the tune they used shared roughly equal credit with the exhaust, cat converters, and headers for the 100-105 rwhp stated gain, I believe it was also achieved at around 6000 rpm.
Of course, Steve will probably further clarify, I am just going from my memory, and was distracted by a huge and delicious lobster that I shared with Todd, as well as a tasty steak.
Oops! Sorry about the "selling" issue. Busted by Bony! I didn't read the policy, my fault. So I won't be posting pricing when the project's finished.
Boney, where do I find the policy?
Shadowman: These numbers are real, call me if you want to discuss.
Boney, where do I find the policy?
Shadowman: These numbers are real, call me if you want to discuss.
B O N Y
MODERATOR & FGT OWNER
We have the policy posted on selling. No problem, water under the bridge. You got your one free commercial 
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Take a look at the little banners under their handles. You might find that a great place to start. After all the FGT experts are all on this board.
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You can imagine that Heffner, Accufab, Hennesey etc. have paid to support this forum. It is not fair to let someone else pitch a competive product. I have deleted your email and phone number off your post. I realize that Brian started the thread, had, I would have been forced to delete it. The majority of the members here are supporting members.Take a look at the little banners under their handles. You might find that a great place to start. After all the FGT experts are all on this board.
Cheers,
Daniel
Moderator
Here is the policy for all to read:-
Recently the site has had a number of businesses soliciting their products and services in threads and posts. Some are blatant and some are more creative to not appear directly as spam. Since fordgtforum.com is the most popular Ford GT forum on the net this is going to happen occasionally.
The site would not exist except for paying Sponsors and a handful supporting members. It is unfair that they are paying for non-Sponsor sales and soliciting efforts, almost always offering competing products with current Sponsors. Let's be clear, if you are not a Sponsor, the rules and regulations of the site prohibit commercial posts to the Forums.
Furthermore companies are registering member names that suggest the nature of your business is in hopes to get a forum member to notice your business and/or contact you. For example if your company is "The Speed Shop" and you are not a forum sponsor, registering Bill@TheSpeedShop is not allowed.
In conclusion if you would like to become a Sponsor please send a PM (private message) to me via the forum and provide me with a valid email account to send you our sponsorship contract. Advance warning, at this time, we're only taking a limited number of sponsors in deference to those who have already paid for 2006. If you get an attitude as to why you are not allowed to make yourself money on my private website, you will not be considered at all.
Until you become a paid Sponsor your "solicitations" and creative usernames will simply be deleted. Linking businesses in your signature line is also not allowed. Likewise, telling a sob story of how you are simply in business to help the good people of Ford GT Forum won't help. If need be, I can forward a number of worthy charitable organizations you can put your efforts towards who need it far more than a bunch of exotic car owners.
Thanks for your understanding.
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