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Empty Pockets

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Oct 18, 2006
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"A 44-year-old Arizona man allegedly tried to fool the photo radars that record a vehicle's speed. It worked for a while — until the police caught up with him.

Timothy Welsh allegedly used a permanent marker to change both the 3 and the 9 on his license plate to an 8, so when his vehicle got nabbed for speeding, the ticket was sent to someone else, MyFOXPhoenix.com reported.

At first, Scottsdale Sgt. Jim Butera thought it was a mistake when a Phoenix man called him complaining he had gotten two speeding tickets mailed to him, but he wasn't the one speeding.

When Butera looked at the photo and saw the man making an obscene gesture at the camera he thought, "[we] need to do some more investigating."

"He didn't think it was that big of a deal," Butera told the station. "But he admitted to everything that we accused him of."

Welsh allegedly was going 14 mph over the speed limit and would have had to pay a $175 fine, but now, he's facing a $1,500 fine and up to a year in jail."
 
The funny thing is that for forty bucks he could have bought that spray that reflects the flash and makes the license plate unreadable in the photo. I have done all my plates and it works like a charm. :wink
 
I thought "Myth Busters" did a show on that and they determined that stuff didn't work worth a hoot?
 
I have the pictures somewhere from when I tested it. I took several pics during the day and night, both sports cars and SUV's and obviously the car is still visible but the flash makes the license plate look like a big white spot.

Maybe it depends on the color of your state's license plates :confused?? :lol
 
Empty Pockets said:
I thought "Myth Busters" did a show on that and they determined that stuff didn't work worth a hoot?
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EP, took a pic of the license plate to show you an example. Works with a digital camera flash, but I don't know if it has saved me from a real world situation. If it works in this scenario I would hope it works on the traffic cams. :thumbsup to avoiding a ticket by any means available.
 
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. I wonder if DISTANCE from the DOT camera as well as the HEIGHT and ANGLE the photo was taken from would 'neutralize' the obvious effectiveness of the product that we see in your photo?.

Dat DO get me to wantin' summa dat stuff!!! :lol :thumbsup :cheers
 
Empty Pockets said:

Dat DO get me to wantin' summa dat stuff!!! :lol :thumbsup :cheers
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Pockets you don't need the stuff. You are safe from photo radar when you car is in the garage.

:lol
 
BlackICE said:
Pockets you don't need the stuff. You are safe from photo radar when you car is in the garage.

:lol
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Thank you!

Ya just won me breakfast at the wifey's expense! I told the wifey it wouldn't be long B4 somebuddy made a comment like that and she didn't believe me! :rofl:rofl:rofl
 
Always trying to help a friend.

Oh, BTW, where does your wifey get the fund for breakfast from?
Who, is really paying for breakfast?
 
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BlackICE said:
Pockets you don't need the stuff. You are safe from photo radar when you car is in the garage.

:lol
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Of the long running jokes that I have figured out the past couple of months your garage and "the fastest color" jokes are my two favorite. That was a sucker bet you made with your wife. I have yet to see an opportunity for a garage joke get passed by. :lol Heck, it took me a month posting around here (and reading a little previous post Forum History) to figure out that you no longer had a GT. Yeah, I am a little thick I guess. :biggrin

From what I understand with the spray on the plates, it is the power of the flash and distance actually helps. For example if I take a close up on the plate it would look normal. But the further away you get the better the effect. Plus the flash on those DOT cameras is way more powerful than the puny one on my digital cameras. I have seen them go off before....not with me of course. :thumbsup
 
Does anybody have experience with the lenses that you place over the plate? My Dad has some and they really do block the view from certain angles. We don't really know if they work because we don't know if he has had them exposed to photo enforcement.

http://www.specterguard.com/index.html
http://www.loover.com/

They look like a reasonable solution to big brother and hidden taxes!
 
The car mags did an expose on these gadgets within the last two years as well as the Mythbusters. Nothing is foolproof, and the only way they seem to work is if you go through the intersection at about 80 mph. IL put a law on the books prohibiting any kind of plate covers on the front, I'm assuming to stop laser diffusers. My opinion is you guys are asking for trouble if you depend on these things.
 
I don't know if the info on the spray is applicable to the lens type covers. I can tell you that when you look at these things from any appreciable off axis angle you can't see a thing. I just don't see how any kind of camera could see thru that.

I wouldn't say that we are "depending" on the these, but anything that can tip the odds in our favor is a blessing. If there is any reasonable chance they work, then they may be cheap insurance. Are you aware that as the owner of the car, you get the ticket even if you weren't the one driving? How can that even be legal?!!
 
What is the brand or a link to the spray on coating we're talking about here....

mardyn
 
andymlow;135565 said:
...How can that even be legal?!!
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Because "legal" is whatever the gov't SAYS it is. That's how. :bored:thumbsdow
 
Empty Pockets said:
Because "legal" is whatever the gov't SAYS it is. That's how. :bored:thumbsdow
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Yes, and illegal is when you get caught.
 
Here is the link to the spray that I use. http://www.phantomplate.com/

Seems to be effective to me. Agree with what is mentioned in above posts on the benefits and I see no downside to applying the spray to your plate. It is not like I am blazing through stop lights or tempting fate with speed trap cameras but every now and then they sneak a new one in on you.....and some states are putting them on the highways. It is cheap insurance that may help and can't hurt. :cheers
 
skyrex said:
Here is the link to the spray that I use. http://www.phantomplate.com/

Seems to be effective to me. Agree with what is mentioned in above posts on the benefits and I see no downside to applying the spray to your plate. It is not like I am blazing through stop lights or tempting fate with speed trap cameras but every now and then they sneak a new one in on you.....and some states are putting them on the highways. It is cheap insurance that may help and can't hurt. :cheers
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By golly, 'rex - YEW DA MAN!!!:thumbsup (...But! ...ONLY IF the stuff werkz! Otherwise, yer a bum!:rofl)

I know someone in ARIDzona I'm gunna 'wise up' to this stuff. (I don't LIKE the Orwellian overtones to the speed cameras they have on the "101" in the Scottsdale area (or those located anywhere else in the country for that matter).

All these traffic monitoring cameras are IMO are ATM's for the city's that install 'em. Of course, THEY'LL ALL SAY their cameras are there to increase "public safety". Ya. Right. And I'm the Pope. :bored

(Geeeze, Pockets! Yer shur a cynical ol' goat!)(Yep. Stick around long enough & yew will be too...)
 
3m makes a computer monitor film that does the same thing. people can not view your screen from an angle. If you place a sheet of it on your plate then place it in the over at 250-275 it sticks to the plate like paint film. Can't tell that its there unless you take off the plate and scratch it a bit.

Know it works and I am not sure how the law is written but I think it would be hard pressed to knock an owner for placing "protective" film on his car.
 
all these films, sprays, and systems are illegal..
and who owns the plates...?
do whatever you want and think you can get away with.
Just know that the judge is NOT going to rule in your favor.
Ok Constitutional experts, talk amongst yourselves :)

The City of Portland issued last month 3000 no front plate tickets to enhance photo enforcement, by the way, they had their meter maids do it.
 
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