I think in my area it is more than a few grand. I have a verbal agreement to get an 05 at 7K below msrp now and if I were to buy the car when I 1st thought about, it in early 05, it would have cost me 250K. I my area the dealers still want 10K over msrp! I my case the waiting was worth while. To each there own. I don't like paying more the list and never have. In 05 I also tried to buy a F430 the waiting list was too long and the dealers were much too arrogant. The whole experience turned me off to Ferrari. Fine automobile, but a bad user experience. Some of the Ford dealers were bad, but none with the attitude of Ferrari. Ford dealers at least return your call and try to reach an agreement for a sale. Ferrari wants you to kiss their ass or take a hike!
BlackICE