What would you rather have?


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It's a shame that this is a thread about the car that would be epic win for you and in 3 pages there hasn't been a single picture. To solve this issue and give this thread something to fap about, here is some car porn. :biggrin

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I like the Enzo's Ass
 

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FastFords

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I like the Enzo as well, but it doesn't compare to the CCXR. Koenigseggs are engineering masterpieces and the Enzo is just a classy Ferrari. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but it's like bringing a gun to a bomb fight. With that said, I'd love to see someone do a Gulf Racing Enzo, however I'll always be a sucker for a Ferrari in Rosso Corsa, especially with an all tan leather interior and 6 speed manual trans.
 
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Senna1994

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Fantastic, thought provoking question! I've been sitting here racking my brain, and I am shocked and amazed to report and I can't come up with anything. Enzo is tempting, but in reality, I wouldn't do it if I had to give up the GT.

Here's a telling fact: I recently ordered a 458, and I never once considered trading the GT for it. Just couldn't do such a thing. When I went in to my F Car dealer to order up the final specs, there was a thousand mile, red GT menacing the center of the showroom. It was pristine. Despite where I was and what I was there to do, I couldn't take my eyes off it. The F cars around it seemed to tremble in its presence, and none of them would make eye contact with it. I actually say a Scuderia inching away from it, moving cautiously to a corner of the store.

GT. Never, ever gonna be another car like it. Did I mention that I DROVE IT TO 210.1 MPH? If you don't own one, buy one. If you do own one, keep it. That, dear sirs, is my professional advice.

210.1. 210.1 210.1. Sometimes I wake up chanting these magic numbers.

What a great post, right on the money. I own a F430 and have read your comparisons, your writing is terrific, as another member mentioned, you
remind of Peter Egan's column in Road & Track. I personally agree that the FORD GT is a keeper for life and looks better IMHO than any modern
Supercar, I hope to join the ranks of all of you shortly.
 

w. mitty

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I personally agree that the FORD GT is a keeper for life and looks better IMHO than any modern
Supercar, I hope to join the ranks of all of you shortly.

Let me be the first, in advance, to welcome you to the club. Hope it happens for you sooner rather than later. You certainly won't regret it! BTW, just saw the movie "Senna" and I'm still haunted by it....
 

JJayB

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Jan 7, 2007
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Not counting the museum Ferrari 250's and FXX's, a price no object would be a Pagani Zonda F would be in the garage. In the FGT price range, well there's nothing that compares... really there's nothing.
 

Senna1994

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Oct 19, 2010
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Thank you very much, I remember your posts on F-Chat. I am looking at 06 GT at Team Motorsports, if anyone happens to know that car.
 

RALPHIE

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Mar 1, 2007
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Saleen S7, a limited-production, hand-built, high-performance American supercar which has had considerable success at Le Mans and uses a Ford powerplant.

0-60 mph (97 km/h): 2.8 sec
0-100 mph (161 km/h): 5.9 sec
0-200 mph (322 km/h): 27 sec
Quarter-mile: 10.5 sec
Top speed: 248 mph (399 km/h)
 
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Stef

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I was wondering that too Ralphie. S7 would be my 2nd choice after FGT.
 

ENZO BTR

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Maybe a 250 GT California or a 275 GTB/4, as they are the only other cars (ever) that I consider on the same level as the GT in terms of pure visual art (the Enzo, Pag, Konig, Veyron and just about any Lambo are trying too hard for my personal tastes, though the original and the new concept Miura are also right up there, same with the Z8). If you take pre-1970 Ferraris out of the equation the only other possible consideration is the McLaren F1. Also beautiful and an engineering masterpiece.

BTW, as far as I'm concerned the rapid infusion of technology in modern cars makes the GT pretty much the last of a breed. Starting for the 2012 model year all cars sold in the U.S. have to have stability control, and almost all of them now have electric steering and brakes (meaning no direct mechanical connection between the driver controls and the wheels). This will probably make cars safer and even faster on a track, but like electro-hydraulic clutches that doesn't necessarily make them more fun to drive.

GT represents a very unique moment in time. Enough technology to create a world beater but enough restraint from Ford to keep it pure and real in terms of design and engineering. And if you don't believe me just check the car's "depreciation" since new. Now find me a car built in similar production numbers that has held up remotely as well. As we all know, these things are special. Letting one go should be reserved for financial emergencies only IMHO.

Of course I chased mine for 3 and 1/2 years, and like some of you I visited her on the assembly line and took delivery with 7 miles on the odo, so I'm probably biased. One thing's for sure, I can't ever do that with a classic Ferrari or an F1, so I better just keep her. :)
 
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w. mitty

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BTW, as far as I'm concerned the rapid infusion of technology in modern cars makes the GT pretty much the last of a breed. Starting for the 2012 model year all cars sold in the U.S. have to have stability control, and almost all of them now have electric steering and brakes (meaning no direct mechanical connection between the driver controls and the wheels). This will probably make cars safer and even faster on a track, but like electro-hydraulic clutches that doesn't necessarily make them more fun to drive.

GT represents a very unique moment in time. Enough technology to create a world beater but enough restraint from Ford to keep it pure and real in terms of design and engineering. And if you don't believe me just check the car's "depreciation" since new. Now find me a car built in similar production numbers that has held up remotely as well. As we all know, these things are special. Letting one go should be reserved for financial emergencies only IMHO.

Of course I chased mine for 3 and 1/2 years, and like some of you I visited her on the assembly line and took delivery with 7 miles on the odo, so I'm probably biased. One thing's for sure, I can't ever do that with a classic Ferrari or an F1, so I better just keep her. :)

Very well said. +1
 

GTdrummer

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I think the reason I bought 2 2010 Vipers was because they will indeed be the last of the nannieless cars (at least that was one of the excuses I used)
 

djs

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Empty Pockets

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Saleen S7...


Anyone considering one should at least sit in it first. 'Not easy to get in & out of, nor is the driving position real comfy. 'Driver's legs hafta sit off at too much of an angle to suit me, and his feet hafta reside in a child's shoe box. And then there's that 6' wide door sill. :willy

Of course, if a guy's in his 20's or 30's...:biggrin

Persnickity Pockets
 

daytrayd

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Saleen S7, a limited-production, hand-built, high-performance American supercar which has had considerable success at Le Mans and uses a Ford powerplant.

0-60 mph (97 km/h): 2.8 sec
0-100 mph (161 km/h): 5.9 sec
0-200 mph (322 km/h): 27 sec
Quarter-mile: 10.5 sec
Top speed: 248 mph (399 km/h)


S7 would be my one of my top choices if money was no object, that and a Mclaren F1. This topic started as money was an object, but has gone on a tangent which is ok with me. An original Cobra would be at the top as well. S7 would be the best "value" out of those three.
 

Specracer

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To keep going on the S7, this would look nice next to my no stripe, black, w black wheels.... Too bad that is a very large number...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Othe...1054890?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1e66a42f2a
 

Empty Pockets

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To keep going on the S7, this would look nice next to my no stripe, black, w black wheels.... Too bad that is a very large number...

Keep in mind there are FGT's for sale with large numbers too...'doesn't mean the seller will get 'em.

In the vertical ribbon of photos on that ebay ad ("slide show"?), #7 from the bottom clearly shows the "6' foot wide" door sill I mentioned. The average guy would need a Sherpa to successfully traverse that thing...

Still, the S-7's are one nasty, impressive looking thrill ride. 'No darn question at all about that.
 

FastFords

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Keep in mind there are FGT's for sale with large numbers too...'doesn't mean the seller will get 'em.

In the vertical ribbon of photos on that ebay ad ("slide show"?), #7 from the bottom clearly shows the "6' foot wide" door sill I mentioned. The average guy would need a Sherpa to successfully traverse that thing...

Still, the S-7's are one nasty, impressive looking thrill ride. 'No darn question at all about that.
Well if you really think about the design of the S7, it follows that of a Pro 1 class race car. Really long wheel base with a fairly wide body and a kind of small cockpit. The door sill is big enough to sleep on. The same could be said about the Ford MkIV's of the 60's, which is arguably one of the grand daddies of today's modern Pro class race cars. The S7 is a beautiful car, but it was designed around a race car, not a street car. From the pin drive wheels to the tail lights, it was meant for the track. :biggrin If you look at its price tag, it has a LOT of bang for the buck.
 

Thugboat

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I have seen a couple S7's at a dealer here in Houston. VERY IMPRESSIVE. Did hear something about them really having troubles being street legal. Emissions problem, But if one can afford the car, I think one could afford the no inspection sticker ticket. LOL

Larry
 

Specracer

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That price in half, is still a big number. And I will gladly climb in over a 12' door sill to slide into that Left seat....

Keep in mind there are FGT's for sale with large numbers too...'doesn't mean the seller will get 'em.

In the vertical ribbon of photos on that ebay ad ("slide show"?), #7 from the bottom clearly shows the "6' foot wide" door sill I mentioned. The average guy would need a Sherpa to successfully traverse that thing...

Still, the S-7's are one nasty, impressive looking thrill ride. 'No darn question at all about that.
 

Empty Pockets

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...I will gladly climb in over a 12' door sill to slide into that Left seat....

Oh, I HAVE (pole vaulted the six footer anyway)...that's why I know I wouldn't wanna do it on a regular basis! :lol Like I postulated earlier, I betcha you're in the "younger" age group I mentioned, aren'tcha, 'racer! :biggrin

But, like I said, the sill isn't the only "issue" for me (it'd be a much BIGGER issue for wifey, BTW). The thought of driving any distance at all with my feet sitting in what OUGHT to be the passenger's footwell doesn't ring my chimes either...

What can I say? I'M OLD, sir!








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