Times: 60-130mph and 100-200kph


dbk

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Thought it would be neat to keep this up in case any one else gets a driftbox. You can easily do these tests at a drag strip or a longer road course. I can't vouch for these production car times because they were probably culled from magazines, and quite frankly, some of them seem quite slow.

60-130 mph


4.52 Hennessey 994rwhp TT/SC GT - Mullet
4.55 - 933rwhp TT GT - Peak Completions
4.6 - 1200 rwhp TT Viper / 1 shift (on slicks)
5.1 Heffner Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
5.3 - Whipple/n2o Ford GT - Soroush
5.4 - 904rwhp TT GT - DBK
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
8.6 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
8.9 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane)
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Ferrari F430
9.6 - Ferrari F50
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo
12.2 - Porsche 996TT

Ford GT Forum 60-130 mph


4.52 - Mullet (994rwhp TT/SC)
4.55 - Peak Completions (933rwhp TT)
5.3 - Soroush (Whipple/Spray)
5.4 - DBK (904rwhp TT)
5.8 - Soroush (Whipple)




Ford GT Forum 0-200 mph


18.14 PeakCompletions
18.65 Mullet


100-200 kph:

2.0 – Renault R25 F1 car (800+ HP / 1,300 lb curb weight)
4.6 - Hayabusa (stock)
4.8 – Veyron
5.0 – Ducati 1098 S
5.3 – Koenigsegg CCX
5.7 – Koenigsegg CCR
6.1 - Mclaren F1
6.2 - Pagani Zonda F
6.4 - RUF RT-12
6.4 - Carrera GT
6.6 - SLR 722
6.7 - Enzo
6.8 - GTB 599
7.2 - SLR
7.8 - Murci LP640
7.9 - C6 Z06
8.0 - Ford GT
8.4 - 997TT
8.4 - F430
8.4 - 996 GT2
8.6 - M6
8.7 - SL65 AMG
8.8 - Gallardo Superleggera
8.8 - M5
9.0 - 996TT X50/Turbo 'S'
9.1 - Gallardo SE
9.7 - 996TT
10.2- Viper SRT-10
11.2 - AM Vanquish S
11.2 - Audi RS-4
11.8 - Bentley Continental GT
12.0 - AM Vantage

Ford GT Forum 100-200 kph:

6.0 - DBK (602rwhp)

As you can kind of see, the powerband is real important. That 100-200 kph is killer but the 60-130 isn't quite as good. I think a colder set of plugs and a dyno tune would get me solidly into the 6's and 5's respectively, or just 60 degree weather. My car only made 602rwhp, so the 630-640 rwhp should make even more killer numbers.

Someone with a Whipple get one of these!
 
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I tried to order one today but John Hennessey doesn't carry the Performance Box, only the Drift Box. V Box USA is out of the Performance Box also. I e-mailed them and asked when they expect them in but for now I'm on hold.

The Texas Mile would be the perfect place to test some of these times. I'm trying to get one by then (early October.)
 

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Yes, Texas Mile is the perfect venue. If you want the best time though, you'll have to short shift because the 1-2 shift occurs right around 65 otherwise. I just hit it at 50 in 2nd. With the Whipple power and only the 2-3 shift to deal with, I'd expect it'll be a pretty ridiculous time...
 

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Dave, why is there nothing posted under 60-130 mph and why are you measuring in KPH? What the hell is 200 kph anyway, 124 mph?

This is America By God! Use MPH or get the hell out!:biggrin
 

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There is! I posted the 7.0 under the 60-130. I put the 100-200 kph (62-124mph) up there because most of the European auto rags do that test, and they test alot of the good stuff pretty frequently... :biggrin
 

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Dave, have you tried other techniques, such as starting in 3rd gear? Just curious to see the differences in times.
 

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I'll try it, but it'll take forever. My limiter is at 6800, so 2nd goes to almost 100, and third goes past 135. So I'd be in one gear from 50-135 :lol My guess is that the 60-130 will go from 7.0 to probably something like 11.
 

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i bet you'll be surprised. Try them all 1,2,3; 2,3; and just 3.
 

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Dave, have you tried other techniques, such as starting in 3rd gear? Just curious to see the differences in times.
I meant to ask about this also, since some of those GT700+ guys got such great times with no shifts on 6speedonline. Personally, I think it's cheating, but hey... good numbers are good numbers. A 3rd gear run in a pully'd FGT should be an interesting comparison since both cars trap in the 130s.
 

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I can virtually guarantee it will be significantly slower. The first time I tried and got a 7.1, I went back and looked at the 2-3 shift on the graph. From the point I stopped accelerating (I think it was around 95 mph), then lost a very minor amount of speed, and then began accelerating again in 3rd gear, it was 0.21 seconds. I think a .3-.4 shift is easily repeatable, and the 60-95 time in third will undoubtedly be slower in 3rd than it is in second. Whatever the difference is, combined with the shift time, I highly, highly doubt it'll be made up by using the single gear.
 

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A datalog from a pull in 3rd from 2K to redline will give you a good est. of your engine's torque and power curves, once you factor in the weight, coefficient of fiction and frontal area. Think of it as a on road dyno. Actually in many ways it is better than a dyno. The hard part is finding a safe and legal course that is flat and windless.

DBK want is the average longitudinal G's you are seeing in 2nd and 3rd. That is also gives you a good idea of the engines torque.
 

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Good post DBK, this is cool data. I need to get one of these boxes.

BTW what pulley and tune are you running?, sounds like it's an out of the box version. Those are some smokin' numbers either way.
 

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Good post DBK, this is cool data. I need to get one of these boxes.

BTW what pulley and tune are you running?, sounds like it's an out of the box version. Those are some smokin' numbers either way.

Thanks. I like this thing as a way to just have some nice data instead of 1/4 data. Cars are at the point where standing start acceleration numbers under 1/2 mile are becoming pointless due to tire limitations. The GT has pretty good traction at this level, but it's a poor drag car. I can click off mid to high 3 second 60 runs over and over but getting the car to 60' ain't easy.

The pulley is just the Heffner 2.7. Tune is the canned SCT Tune. A local GT owner let me put it on his dyno and it was so fat the A/F wouldn't read. Leaned out, I'm sure it would make another 25rwhp. I'd expect a car that has been dyno tuned, runs colder plugs, and has a bigger TB and headers will really be smokin.

Then there's the big power Whipple and TT boys, which I can't wait to see...I'll have TT numbers in 2 weeks.
 

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Looking forward to more data. TT, Whipple and others.

Still smokin' numbers for a canned program. More safe power on the table with those numbers is simply incredible. If you are showing that fat I would have to guess 30-35 would be easy enough with a custom tune. Sweet.

These cars are soooo solid and quite, the rear engine really changes ones perception of how the car feels speed wise. None of the mechanical sounds that transfer through the firewall up front.

When I first got it , I though it was weaker than I imagined. Then I took it to my tuning course, an on ramp in a deserted area. I tuned many cars here on the fly. 5mph roll to a reference point before entering the fwy. About the safest spot I have been able to find, great visibility, low traffic, flat. The GT just smoked any other mph numbers gathered here over the years.( This is my low tech method to compare cars). But it did not feel at all like it did. We are talkin' 15 mph to 18 mph better, A/C on.

The stock muffler is one of the culprits in the weak sensation. It's is so quite you really do not get the same sensation as others. I kinda think that's why we see so many wrecked GT's. People just don't realize how quickly it build speed.

The data you have shared shows just how powerful these beasts are with relatively inexpensive and safe tweeks. I have a whole new respect for where the car stands in the super car ranks.:thumbsup
 

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Hey DBK,

How about a 4.6 60-130 on pump gas for the TT GT!!!

If our v-box worked, I could have had you some race gas numbers but we will have another opportunity :biggrin
 

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Please add: Heffner TT Superleggera 5.1
 

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I swear to God, that Superleggera made my soul hurt. I don't even think I have one anymore. It's gone like so much Saudi Arabian dust.
 

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Please add: Heffner TT Superleggera 5.1

I know of a SL that should get such treatment! Hopefully the owner agrees... Well done, Jason! :cheers
 

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I know of a SL that should get such treatment! Hopefully the owner agrees... Well done, Jason! :cheers

He would do it after about 5 seconds. I'm a big Gallardo fan. It's a great car. But there is zero reason to leave a Gallardo untouched, and it's like the car is turned up to 11(00) with the twins. Let's face it, a Gallardo holds it's value for a year or two, and then drops significantly. A 250k SL is going to be a $19xk car very shortly. With the LP560 on the horizon, why wouldn't it? That SL with the twins puts down power like no other street car. Literally. We're plunking along and it's like a stock car, and all the sudden you're going at speeds that would make a Veyron piss its pants. Unreal. Tracks totally straight and true on regular street tires.

In the spring I'll get him in the GT and see what convincing we can do. :lol
 

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He would do it after about 5 seconds. I'm a big Gallardo fan. It's a great car. But there is zero reason to leave a Gallardo untouched, and it's like the car is turned up to 11(00) with the twins. Let's face it, a Gallardo holds it's value for a year or two, and then drops significantly. A 250k SL is going to be a $19xk car very shortly. With the LP560 on the horizon, why wouldn't it? That SL with the twins puts down power like no other street car. Literally. We're plunking along and it's like a stock car, and all the sudden you're going at speeds that would make a Veyron piss its pants. Unreal. Tracks totally straight and true on regular street tires.

In the spring I'll get him in the GT and see what convincing we can do. :lol

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It sounds pretty good.... build quality is dropped compared to a typical G... but still quite good overall... looks fast...

I think you're right ;)