Big Enabler?


Cobrar

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Just when the OE herd is all headed to electric vehicles, there is a glimmer of hope for IC powertrains:

http://www.autonews.com/article/201...-95-as-new-regular?cciid=email-autonews-daily

And if so, what a boon to the performance segment! If and only if, 'Big Oil' prices the product move correctly (the $.05/gallon noted), otherwise the IC run may be over.
 

2112

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Great news for FE engines everywhere!
 

PeteK

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Remember that 95 RON is NOT the same measurement that we see on pumps in the USA. 95 Research Octane Number is about 4 points higher than the rating system we use, which is (RON+MON)/2. MON is Motor Octane Number, obtained by actually running fuel in a SAE "standard motor". Either way, if 91 becomes the new Regular, and 93 is still available, so much the better.
 

twobjshelbys

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Don't Canada and Europe use RON only?

I'd like to see Chip's take on this.
 

DakotaGT

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"Raising an engine's compression may be the most cost-effective -- and untapped -- way to improve fuel economy and lower carbon dioxide emissions."

why, the 14.5:1 compression 604 hemi in my Dart is practically eco-friendly! :biggrin
 

2112

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"Raising an engine's compression may be the most cost-effective -- and untapped -- way to improve fuel economy and lower carbon dioxide emissions."

why, the 14.5:1 compression 604 hemi in my Dart is practically eco-friendly!
:biggrin

Because you love the earth.
 

DakotaGT

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Because you love the earth.

:thumbsup I do.
 

MTV8

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More power on pump gas sounds good to me.
 

RickH

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This would require large expenses for the big oil companies. I don't want 20% ethanol in my fuel either. I can buy 93 octane and it's fine for my cars.
 

PeteK

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Chip, if you're watching this thread, please give us your view from the station owners/dsitrbutors perspective. I would think that upping the minimum octane would make little or no difference to the fuel distribution and retail systems. The current system just mixes the 87 octane and 92/93 octane tanks to get the in-between numbers, right? In other words, when you buy 89 octane fuel, the pump mixes 87 and 93 in the proper ratio to get 89.

Of course, if getting to 91 as the minimum requires increasing ethanol%, then all bets are off. That would really change the processes and systems, not to mention cause even more problems for existing ICE engines.

Ethanol isn't an additive, it's a contaminant. :ack
 

timcantwell

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Just when the OE herd is all headed to electric vehicles, there is a glimmer of hope for IC powertrains:

http://www.autonews.com/article/201...-95-as-new-regular?cciid=email-autonews-daily

And if so, what a boon to the performance segment! If and only if, 'Big Oil' prices the product move correctly (the $.05/gallon noted), otherwise the IC run may be over.

The move makes sense with the trend going to lower displacement turbo motors. Higher octane means greater potential for tuning, ergo more horsepower and more efficiency.