Door panels Popping off

Gene Cassone · Sep 9, 2011

Since new, my 2005 inner door panel rings keep popping off. Somewhat embarrassing when showing the car, opening or closing the
doors they come flying off. There actually was a recall or bulletin on the early cars but the new tape doesn't hold. Any suggestions on alternative measures? Possibly silicone or other.

HHGT · Sep 9, 2011

I think 3M Double stick tape was fix and not the crap found in auto parts stores.

Gierkink · Sep 9, 2011

The GT Guys have a fix but I'm not sure what they do to solve the problem. Maybe Rich will provide some insight?

fjpikul · Sep 9, 2011

Silicon bead

STORMCAT · Sep 9, 2011

The GT guys will tell you to use silicone as Frank mentioned. A thin bead of clear will do the trick.

gtjoey · Sep 9, 2011

Gene Cassone said:
Since new, my 2005 inner door panel rings keep popping off. Somewhat embarrassing when showing the car, opening or closing the
doors they come flying off. There actually was a recall or bulletin on the early cars but the new tape doesn't hold. Any suggestions on alternative measures? Possibly silicone or other.

Gene, very late 05 and all 06 had the upgraded door trim with clips installed on the surround from the factory.....Your car like all the earlier cars had 3m tape. The gtguys made a smootze and feathered it behind the whole trim, on 360.. a couple of weeks ago...Ours fell off during the run to detroit.....The tape is a waste as when the temps change the glue comes undone.....
There are no supply of the later surround with the clips as on the 06.....silicone/smootze, just cleanALL THE OLD TAPE OFF......let the stuff set up and away you go.....good luck...gtjoey1314

jim gibson · Sep 9, 2011

smootze?

Empty Pockets · Sep 9, 2011

jim gibson said:
smootze?

It's an 'Italian' thing! :lol

KMCBOSS · Sep 9, 2011

Empty Pockets said:
It's an 'Italian' thing! :lol

Thought that was a Pennsylvania Dutch thing - haven't heard that term since I left Pennsylvania in '72.

standj · Sep 10, 2011

I used the two sided tape years ago and it has held up fine. Just make sure you use the 3M adhesion promoter on BOTH pieces prior to putting on the tape. IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

John

Gene Cassone · Sep 10, 2011

I like the silicone idea (or smootze). The problem way up here are the extreme temperatures and changes in humidity (despite heated garage and
dehumidifier). thanks

shelbyelite · Sep 10, 2011

They are all held on with double sided tape Joey. No difference on late 05 and 06 cars. The tape was too thin. If you upgrade to the 3M black double sided tape, you will have no further problems.

gtjoey · Sep 10, 2011

Shelby, you forgot to sign 360, are you going to Amelia Island in march?
The tape shrinks in the cold to hot, In my experience, it stinks.......
But all kidding aside, the gtguys made up an epoxy , dont know what they use but once it cured the trim rings were on for life........
Maybe rich can post his secret formula.....
enjoy gtjoey1314

daytrayd · Sep 10, 2011

Shelby, is it the black foam double sided tape?

Silverbullitt · Sep 10, 2011

If you NEVER want them to come off 3M super weatherstrip adhesive. Someone put some on a vw beetle crankcase. Next rebuild it had to be scrapped, couldn't get the case to split.

Available at all parts stores.

shelbyelite · Sep 10, 2011

It's not really a foam. The foam is the white tape. The Black tape is more like a rubber strip double sided tape

nota4re · Sep 10, 2011

The permanent fix being referenced here and attributed to others - is the brain child of Kip Ewing. In fact, what Kip told me a few years ago when he gave us the tip is that this is what Ford would have used had they been aware of this specific formula.

As Shelby has said, I think the 3M industrial double sided tape is a good and long-lasting fix but if you're interested to fix this forever, here's the product you will need. (Note: It is available in 8.5 oz tubes for traditional caulking guns.)

Evercoat 100885 Maxim Plastic Repair System Medium Urethane Adhesive
http://www.evercoat.com/productDetail.aspx?pID=179

We've used it on several GT's and it is pretty amazing stuff. Many other uses too as it is essentially a 2-part liquid plastic that bonds and hardens to the components it is in contact with.

Empty Pockets · Sep 10, 2011

I believe the street term for that stuff is "Gorilla Snot"...

RALPHIE · Sep 10, 2011

Silverbullitt said:
If you NEVER want them to come off 3M super weatherstrip adhesive. Someone put some on a vw beetle crankcase. Next rebuild it had to be scrapped, couldn't get the case to split.

Available at all parts stores.

If one fixes it so the panel is not removable, how does one replace the switches and other door parts without destroying the door?

daytrayd · Sep 10, 2011

I assume this is it, I cant find any other black 3m double sided that isnt listed as "foam".

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...1x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM5112271001

The only other kind I could find is this, but I assume the first one is correct as it says automotive. Let me know if I am wrong. Thanks.

http://www.findtape.com/product531/3M-Scotch-5952-VHB-Heavy-Duty-Mounting-Tape.aspx?bc=F

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