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kdmfnrk
12-01-2005, 02:30 PM
Best Speed So Far 128mph On Local Parkway

DBK
12-01-2005, 02:33 PM
I knew this would come up eventually. This type of stuff can't be posted on here because of legal ramifications...oh wait, who the hell am I kidding? Post the high speed antics away (just don't blame the site if you get caught) :biggrin

4ord GT
12-01-2005, 02:34 PM
I hit some where in the area of 45mph going around a big sweeping turn on the PW Parkway Last Sat.

FrankBarba
12-01-2005, 02:42 PM
155 mph on the 81 / 581 bypass. Easily obtained. Great fun. Big smile on my face. What was incredible about this is i have never gone over 120 in my Viper.

kdmfnrk
12-01-2005, 02:50 PM
Running Man Is That Princewilliam Pkwy Im In Lakeridge Also River Falls You Dont Have To Answer That Question If You Dont Want Too

kdmfnrk
12-01-2005, 02:52 PM
155 Sweet.... Im Looking For 150 Still. Crazy Fast It Will Leave You With A Smile On Your Face

barondw
12-01-2005, 03:47 PM
It doesn't take much space to double the speed limit. It also doesn't take much more space to almost go triple the speed limit.

samthejeepman
12-01-2005, 04:09 PM
i only heard this though a 2'nd and a 3rd party to the party next to the last, but !!!!!
a certain red 05 went up to 175, the first night of new ownership

wink/wink

sam
#1451 red/white

ENZO BTR
12-01-2005, 05:18 PM
Interesting, I know of "another" GT that's seen just over 170. Apparently it was already doing 80 mph in sixth when the driver downshifted to third, redlined it in third and fourth and was just shifting into fifth as he got to 170 mph. Reports also indicate the entire trip, from 80 to 170 and back to 80 only took about 8 or 9 seconds. Further reports indicate the car's shape and underside air extractors really work, as the car was noticeably hunkered down and there was a low-frequency "thrum" coming over the windshield, likely from the air coming off the front extractors in the hood. And overall the car was amazingly stable and relaxed at that speed.

At least, that's what I heard... :biggrin

samthejeepman
12-01-2005, 05:21 PM
enzo
i "hear" thats there is alot of that stuff going on lol

sam #1451 red/white

FlorIdaho Chris
12-01-2005, 06:13 PM
GT 145 locally. '06 Viper FE Coupe 180 on I-80 in western South Dakota.

barondw
12-01-2005, 06:52 PM
Interesting, I know of "another" GT that's seen just over 170. Apparently it was already doing 80 mph in sixth when the driver downshifted to third, redlined it in third and fourth and was just shifting into fifth as he got to 170 mph. Reports also indicate the entire trip, from 80 to 170 and back to 80 only took about 8 or 9 seconds. Further reports indicate the car's shape and underside air extractors really work, as the car was noticeably hunkered down and there was a low-frequency "thrum" coming over the windshield, likely from the air coming off the front extractors in the hood. And overall the car was amazingly stable and relaxed at that speed.

At least, that's what I heard... :biggrin

Interesting but I never had any of that occur at those speeds. The car just goes and it takes longer than 8-9 seconds to reach those speeds. I am not disputing that the aero devices work, but you always here wind at very high speeds. It takes 8 seconds to get from 50 mph to 130 mph on a dyno (no wind resistance) thus in the real world much longer.

BTW most of my high speeds are legal, done on a race track. The car feels fine at any speed I have had it up to.

4ord GT
12-01-2005, 07:28 PM
Hey EnzoBtr, thats some amazing detail you have from some "other" GT

VIN1591
12-01-2005, 08:24 PM
170 with a witness :thumbsup

ENZO BTR
12-01-2005, 11:04 PM
Hey EnzoBtr, thats some amazing detail you have from some "other" GT


What can I say, the "guy" really kept good mental notes, and was able to relay them to me with amazing detail. :lol

TEXAS GT
12-01-2005, 11:08 PM
Anybody think about taking a picture of their speedo at these speeds to verify their claims? I "heard" of a guy who plans to take a friend along to take the pictures when he does his first serious high speed run.

My top so far on an impromptu punch was 138. The guy with the cameraman plans on doing 180 for the picture. Wish m..."him" luck.

Neilda
12-02-2005, 02:38 AM
I'm still treating mine with kid gloves at it currently has only 249 miles on the clock (which is a crime, but it's winter here, so cut me some slack!). However, have done 145 briefly and it felt very good with acres of room for more....

I will want to try a maximum speed run in it at some stage - perhaps in France next year - have done this in the Murcielago (204 registered on the dial) and Vanquish (196 on the dial).

Probably best not to use the term 'mph' in these descriptions!!

Any photos would of course be "a friends GT in Germany taken on the Autobahn"...! Otherwise they could be used in evidence. Just a thought. N

Edit: Do drive carefully too! I recall those horrid pictures!

phoenix
12-02-2005, 03:00 AM
ran mine up to 175 on an airport runway - no problem- she wasn't even breathing hard, and only needed light brakes to slow her down - runway was about 6000 feet long ( and closed at the time ) If anyone wanted to see what the top end speed for these cars are - someone could always rent Talladega. It should not be a problem to run around there at 200 + and find the top end speed. I would guess the top end speed would be around 220. Talladega rents for around 2500 a day - not sure these tires are rated for speeds that high.....I used to test Cup cars over there - easy track, soft banks.

centerpunch
12-02-2005, 07:54 AM
OK guys, I'll only post this anti-macho thought once. Call me a wuss, no problem.

There was a young writer at Car and Driver magazine I met with several times. Don Schroeder, great guy, 35 years old.

While testing a car for top speed on a track, the car crashed, rolled, and stopped, back on its wheels. It caught on fire.

His friends got to the wreck, tried to cool the flames with fire extinguishers, but ultimately watched as Don was cremated in the car.

The Indyweek article linked below concludes "He did not die needlessly." But that's wrong. Who cares if that car would go 190 or 195 or 200? What difference does it make?

OK, you guys all have big balls, I'm impressed.

I don't know what's dumber, driving at 150 or more on the street, or posting about it on the internet. You're going 220 feet per second, with no helmet, no roll cage, no hans device, no tire pressure warning system, no fire system. One little glitch, and you're dead.

I think that's really dumb.



http://indyweek.com/durham/2000-03-01/rumble.html

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Driving_Forces/The_Cult_of_Speed.S192.A2196.html

Bill Briley
12-02-2005, 08:27 AM
I think a certain White/Blue GT saw 150+ in short sprint to issue a much needed spanking to an '04 Z06.
The accelleration from 70 up is sweet. And the GT is a world away from my past Vipers.

samthejeepman
12-02-2005, 08:39 AM
points well taken "centerpunch"
that is why there is an ass for every seat


sam
#1451 red/white

Tom B
12-02-2005, 10:00 AM
65 MPH on I-95, (165 MPH at Summit Point Raceway).

Tom

barondw
12-02-2005, 11:28 AM
ran mine up to 175 on an airport runway - no problem- she wasn't even breathing hard, and only needed light brakes to slow her down - runway was about 6000 feet long ( and closed at the time ) If anyone wanted to see what the top end speed for these cars are - someone could always rent Talladega. It should not be a problem to run around there at 200 + and find the top end speed. I would guess the top end speed would be around 220. Talladega rents for around 2500 a day - not sure these tires are rated for speeds that high.....I used to test Cup cars over there - easy track, soft banks.

The top speed is limited to 205. Not 200, 205. Unlimited it had a real top speed of 212.

Dave

4ord GT
12-02-2005, 11:52 AM
Centerpunch. Good thread, Point taken. I am glad you had the balls to speak up. I will think real hard before I ever take mine above 100 on the street again.

Vic
12-02-2005, 03:09 PM
Points well taken, good sound advice, no argument here. And while we are thinking about safety, don't forget that even lower speeds like 70MPH can generate enough energy to be fatal, if you hit a bridge abutment or something solid like a concrete wall. But you never feel unsafe at those speeds, merely because they are "legal". Going faster than legal speeds doesn't increase the risk of disaster unproportionately over the risk you incur at legal speeds, but rather linearly. By the same token, you will also be safer if you drive 55mph, or even 50mph. There is no sudden shift in the laws of physics that makes you more unsafe over the legal limit, the risk just increases gradually. A great article was written by Patrick Bedard, where he successfully refuted the blanket claim of the NHTSA that speed was the principle component of highway deaths. I'll see if I can find it if anyone's interested.

In my opinion, the best argument for obeying the speed limits is that it may not be you who makes a mistake, but its likely the other guy who may not see you when you are going faster than typical speeds, and miscalcualte your closing speed, based on his/her low-speed habits. In that regard, your higher speed exposes you to increased risk due to the incompentence/myopia of unskilled drivers. But that is not the fault of speed in and of itself, but the error of other drivers. I'd like to see better/more extensive driver training in these United States, so the general public will learn to get along with higher speeds in the fast lane.


OK guys, I'll only post this anti-macho thought once. Call me a wuss, no problem.

There was a young writer at Car and Driver magazine I met with several times. Don Schroeder, great guy, 35 years old.

While testing a car for top speed on a track, the car crashed, rolled, and stopped, back on its wheels. It caught on fire.

His friends got to the wreck, tried to cool the flames with fire extinguishers, but ultimately watched as Don was cremated in the car.

The Indyweek article linked below concludes "He did not die needlessly." But that's wrong. Who cares if that car would go 190 or 195 or 200? What difference does it make?

OK, you guys all have big balls, I'm impressed.

I don't know what's dumber, driving at 150 or more on the street, or posting about it on the internet. You're going 220 feet per second, with no helmet, no roll cage, no hans device, no tire pressure warning system, no fire system. One little glitch, and you're dead.

I think that's really dumb.



http://indyweek.com/durham/2000-03-01/rumble.html

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Driving_Forces/The_Cult_of_Speed.S192.A2196.html

FrankBarba
12-02-2005, 04:41 PM
Not going to defend my rash behavior of 150+mph. But every now & then i do have to "test the bounds of reality"
Yes i could have made a mistake, yes someone else could have made a mistake, a deer could have jumped out in front of me, my lugs nuts could have not been properly torqued at the factory, ect. But i did it. Was i scared? somewhat, do i have great respect for this vehicle? Yes.
Would i do it again? On the street? NO...On the track? Yes.

Vic
12-02-2005, 09:21 PM
Here is something to think about-

On the Autobahn, (thousands of miles of which still has no speed limit)the fatality rate is .72/100million miles traveled.

On the US Interstate, the fatality rate is .84/100millions traveled.

I wish we had an Autobahn style freeway system here in the States. 200mph? If I could, oh, yeah, I'd do it in a heartbeat! But maybe only at 3am.....?

Vic
12-02-2005, 10:09 PM
A sobering experience!

Did the stain come out? :lol

Awsum GT
12-02-2005, 10:17 PM
I'm waiting for the post of who was killed or who killed someone while speeding on a local street or hiway rather than at a track made for this type of driving. I'm not sure this is a good thing to post.

DBK
12-02-2005, 10:59 PM
All I can say is that adults can make their own decisions. I'd never condone racing or going at high speed in a situation that endangers anyone but yourself, that's stupid and reckless. That said, America is a vast expanse and there are areas where you can pose a risk to nobody but the bugs and yourself.

I'm also completely with Vic on the relationship between speed and fatalities. Thank God I learned to drive in England courtesy of the BSM and frenetic downtown London traffic. You'll never convince me that on the properly surfaced road in a modern car going 100 is exponentially more dangerous than going 70. It's poorly trained drivers that get drivers licenses from Sears and pay little respect to both the rules of the road and the changing responses of a vehicle at progressively higher speeds that kill people.

w. mitty
12-03-2005, 12:26 AM
A blanket statement for or against high speed driving is illogical. It's all about the circumstances and the facts of the particular case. Certainly, on two equally deserted roads, one a back straight on a race track and the other a vacant desert road like we have here in the West, the risks are roughly the same -- mostly tied to the soundness of the car and the skill of the driver and not the "other guy" who is not paying attention.

Also consider this: that clapped out 1972 Ford LTD Wagon wandering out of its lane on the expressway with the family belongings tarped to the roof is probably more dangerous "mechanically" at 65 mph (i.e, stopping distance, obstacle ovoidance, etc) than the GT is at 130. What do you suppose the speed rating is on the four bald tires, all of different makes, on that rusted out work truck we all pass occasionally on the way to work?

It is as simple as this: a responsible driver surveys the situation and drives accordingly. I have driven at significant speeds on the highway, but in my case, I was alone -- no one in the car, no one on the road, plenty of looong distance visibility, in a well maintained and closely monitored high performance car. The risks I chose to take were to me, and me only. What scares me is the guy the comes flying by in the fast lane on a crowded public road doing 120. Just does not make sense. Gives all us car guys a bad name.

BTW, a buddy of mine :biggrin saw 168 in the GT without breaking a sweat. And yes, it was on one of our deserted Arizona back roads.

ENZO BTR
12-03-2005, 03:49 AM
It is as simple as this: a responsible driver surveys the situation and drives accordingly. I have driven at significant speeds on the highway, but in my case, I was alone -- no one in the car, no one on the road, plenty of looong distance visibility, in a well maintained and closely monitored high performance car. The risks I chose to take were to me, and me only. What scares me is the guy the comes flying by in the fast lane on a crowded public road doing 120. Just does not make sense. Gives all us car guys a bad name.

100% agree. The "guy" I know who did 170 in his GT did it on a flat, wide highway with a couple miles visibility both directions. There were cars up ahead -- but way up ahead that he never go close to between going from 80 to 170 and back down to 80 in a matter of a few seconds. And no one else was in the car. At that point it seems to me the major risk is either mechanical failure or a random animal entering your path. Of course, both of those characteristics exist on racetracks, too (I crunched a suicidal gopher with my GT at Laguna Seca!!). Is 150+ mph ever a completely "safe" prospect? Of course not. But like most things in life, if you control for as many factors as possible you can greatly minimize the risk (whether or not it's minimized to an "acceptable" level -- on the street or at a track -- is up to each person to decide, and hopefully they aren't thinking with their ego).

Plus, I don't know about the rest of you, but if I were the type of person who did those speeds, I'd only need to do it about once every five-to-ten years, maybe even less often. If people are going over 130 mph on a regular basis it doesn't matter how much they think they are controlling for the various risks -- they're simply playing with fire... :thumbsdow

Neilda
12-03-2005, 06:31 AM
Enzo - you're spot on in my opinion.... When you get lucky and have a 5 mile straight on a clear 3 lane highway, great visibility and empty - it's proably a once every few years experience to bury the throttle to see what your car might be capable of.

Doing it regularly would be madness. Doing it around other cars - well that's just risking their lives too.

It sounds like we're all pretty much in agreement here on this.

4ord GT
12-03-2005, 07:42 AM
Hey "kdmfnrk" now that this thread seems to be winding down, Did you get what you were looking for?

B O N Y
12-03-2005, 01:15 PM
OK guys, I'll only post this anti-macho thought once. Call me a wuss, no problem.

There was a young writer at Car and Driver magazine I met with several times. Don Schroeder, great guy, 35 years old.

While testing a car for top speed on a track, the car crashed, rolled, and stopped, back on its wheels. It caught on fire.

His friends got to the wreck, tried to cool the flames with fire extinguishers, but ultimately watched as Don was cremated in the car.

The Indyweek article linked below concludes "He did not die needlessly." But that's wrong. Who cares if that car would go 190 or 195 or 200? What difference does it make?

OK, you guys all have big balls, I'm impressed.

I don't know what's dumber, driving at 150 or more on the street, or posting about it on the internet. You're going 220 feet per second, with no helmet, no roll cage, no hans device, no tire pressure warning system, no fire system. One little glitch, and you're dead.

I think that's really dumb.



http://indyweek.com/durham/2000-03-01/rumble.html

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Driving_Forces/The_Cult_of_Speed.S192.A2196.html



...my feelings exactly, thanks for the post!

B O N Y
12-03-2005, 01:21 PM
Here is something to think about-

On the Autobahn, (thousands of miles of which still has no speed limit)the fatality rate is .72/100million miles traveled.

On the US Interstate, the fatality rate is .84/100millions traveled.

I wish we had an Autobahn style freeway system here in the States. 200mph? If I could, oh, yeah, I'd do it in a heartbeat! But maybe only at 3am.....?

...besides the road itself, take a look what it takes to get a drivers license in Germany. I recall when the wall came down and the former East Germans in their Tribants ventured onto the Autobahn. The European driver seems more disciplined, no passing on the right, less tail gating.

B O N Y
12-03-2005, 01:26 PM
I'm waiting for the post of who was killed or who killed someone while speeding on a local street or hiway rather than at a track made for this type of driving. I'm not sure this is a good thing to post.



...and if/when it does the plantiff lawyer will be lurking on this site :thumbsdow
just a fact of life that everyone visiting a forum needs to be aware of. sorry to be on what may appear to be on a DOWNER.

kdmfnrk
12-03-2005, 04:15 PM
runningman im thrilled with the answers. not all of them but most were all adults im sure those doing what there saying there not doing are doing it at a time that no one would get hurt. i dont condone street racing but then again i wont back down from one either id say that my life will end in a car and if so i can live with that?????? you know what i mean ....I LOVE CARS AND SPEED but not looking for anyone to get hurt my son is two you ask him what a red light means he will say stop you ask what a yellow light means he will say slow down you ask what a green light means he will say smoke the tires dad smoke the tires how great......

4ord GT
12-03-2005, 06:14 PM
Thanks for the reply. Let me know when you want to get togther and smoke some tires. I still only have 280 miles on my car.

B O N Y
12-03-2005, 06:41 PM
runningman im thrilled with the answers. not all of them but most were all adults im sure those doing what there saying there not doing are doing it at a time that no one would get hurt. i dont condone street racing but then again i wont back down from one either id say that my life will end in a car and if so i can live with that?????? you know what i mean ....I LOVE CARS AND SPEED but not looking for anyone to get hurt my son is two you ask him what a red light means he will say stop you ask what a yellow light means he will say slow down you ask what a green light means he will say smoke the tires dad smoke the tires how great......

not wanting to start a flame war, there is NO place for street racing and I pray that you make it till your son's third birthday. If you feel suicidal try russian roulette, at least you won't take anyone with you. If you want to run fast, try an open track event.

96GTS
12-04-2005, 10:56 AM
i only heard this though a 2'nd and a 3rd party to the party next to the last, but !!!!!
a certain red 05 went up to 175, the first night of new ownership

wink/wink

sam
#1451 red/white

LOL! and I did what? 90 on the NJ turnpike in a minivan! :rofl

samthejeepman
12-04-2005, 07:24 PM
hey like i always say
it good to let your hair down once in awhile, even if it on a deserted road at 2 in the morning
the rush is worth it, once in every couple of years

sam
#1451----red/white

Fast Freddy
12-04-2005, 09:05 PM
in my bone stock year 2004 corvette Z06 i hit 176 mph on GPS with just a mere 1100 miles on the odometer. this was before i had done the bolt on mods in my sig that bumped my power a bit. in the pic below you see my buddy in the passenger seat snapped the pic a little early because he thought we were only gonna do 172 mph. why? because all the car magazines that we read said that the vette will only do 172 mph bone stock so when we hit 172 mph on GPS i backed off the throttle but i realized my speedo was only reading 168 mph. so we turned around and blasted out another run and we got the 176 mph pass on video. this was on a perfectly flat and level road with no changes in elevation or any kind of tail winds, etc. one of these days i will have to get my vids up on the net. until then pix will have to suffice. on the same stretch of road i hit 182 mph on GPS and speedo with my year 2001 viper ACR. i am currently in the process of modifying my viper to make 550+ N/A rwhp in order to bust 200 mph. if i was you guys i would definately push my GT to the limit if i had one. unfortunately i don't so i will have to wait a couple more years until i get one. my plan is to buy a GT used in 2008 and mod the car to make 650+ rwhp. this should be good for at least 212 mph if not 220 mph. in the meantime i will just live vicariously through you guys until i get one.

http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/6986vette_-_gps-med.jpg

Vic
12-04-2005, 10:38 PM
Freddy, you will have to disable the speed limiter, which kicks in at 205. You know the FGT can really do 212 in stock trim, but is limited to 205. So if you add more power, unless you do something about the limiter, it still won't go above 205. You can get 212 by just removing the limiting function, no extra power needed.

When that 3.3 L Whipple comes out, I'm someone will find a way to remove the limiter. Then what, 240mph? I wouldn't do it myself. The GT sacrifices front downforce in favor of retro looks, and it will tend to lift up, could flip over unless a larger ugly splitter is added to the front end, but that is sacriligious, no?

Fast Freddy
12-04-2005, 11:26 PM
Vic - are you the same Vic thats on viperclub of america. if so then you work on elevators right? do you own a ford GT?

B O N Y
12-05-2005, 07:11 AM
Freddy, you will have to disable the speed limiter, which kicks in at 205. You know the FGT can really do 212 in stock trim, but is limited to 205. So if you add more power, unless you do something about the limiter, it still won't go above 205. You can get 212 by just removing the limiting function, no extra power needed.

When that 3.3 L Whipple comes out, I'm someone will find a way to remove the limiter. Then what, 240mph? I wouldn't do it myself. The GT sacrifices front downforce in favor of retro looks, and it will tend to lift up, could flip over unless a larger ugly splitter is added to the front end, but that is sacriligious, no?


....Whipple can reflash the cpu to readjust the rev limit and top speed limiter.

Vic
12-05-2005, 01:50 PM
Vic - are you the same Vic thats on viperclub of america. if so then you work on elevators right? do you own a ford GT?

Yep its me, thinking of getting a Ford GT, but not just yet.

I started my elevator installation company 9 years ago. Thought I'd be rich by now, damm it!

Hey, you know how you make a small fortune in the elevator industry?

START WITH A BIG ONE!